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Slick Magnum
11-04-2006, 07:51 PM
Problem 1:
Our 300c has developed a bad odourhttp://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Animations/fart.gif. It started a few days ago & isn't getting better. It smells like a baby puked http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Animations/eck06.gifin the car the day before. (I have 5 kids, I know what that smells like.) We haven't spilled anything in the car, there's nothing in there rotting & it doesn't seem to be coming from the vents. Anyone else have this problem? http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Big/bigthink.gifAny Ideas?

Problem 2.
The airbag light never goes off. We have had it to the dealer twice. First time they fixed it, it came back on the next day. The second time, they took all day to fix it & it stayed off for a few days. Now it stays on again. We are bringing it in again on Wed., But maybe someone can shed some light on this?

By the way, my Magnum blew the drivers speakerhttp://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Props/lach082.gif, but other than that, she is awesome.
JetBlack300c
11-05-2006, 02:48 AM
airbag light is the connector to the clock spring, there is a TSB on it, the wires are too short: if you have the electric telescoping steering column, when the column extends the harness disconnects from the clock spring. Tell your dealer to run the TSB for the clock spring, they'll find it, and it requires the replacement of the clock spring, wire harness, and the plastic cover between the column and the dash that goes up and down with the steering wheel.

Took 5 trips to the dealer for them to fix mine correctly, if I hadn't been a member here and found the TSB they might still be working on it..


as for the odor, maybe a valet with bad BO, like that Seinfeld episode, or perhaps a tech with bad BO? I once had a buddy (yes once had, no longer) that thought it would be funny to put a Subway Tuna melt under the Seat of my 1996 Chevy Z71, he wedged it between the seat and console, must've been there for 3 weeks before I found it... talk about barf!!!!!!!!

I got even by having 35 of his co workers silly string him at a company breakfast meeting...
hawkxp
11-05-2006, 03:57 AM
Check to see if you hit an animal... I once hit a squirrel that about 2-3 weeks later was stinking up my old SUV...
fnkychkn
11-05-2006, 08:27 AM
airbag light is the connector to the clock spring, there is a TSB on it, the wires are too short: if you have the electric telescoping steering column, when the column extends the harness disconnects from the clock spring. Tell your dealer to run the TSB for the clock spring, they'll find it, and it requires the replacement of the clock spring, wire harness, and the plastic cover between the column and the dash that goes up and down with the steering wheel.

Took 5 trips to the dealer for them to fix mine correctly, if I hadn't been a member here and found the TSB they might still be working on it..please post the TSB number. i can't seem to find any such TSB. thank you.
fnkychkn
11-05-2006, 08:32 AM
there are well over 100 possible causes for airbag warning lamp illumination. without a DTC, we'd be just guessing.
Slick Magnum
11-05-2006, 10:24 AM
I just checked the invoice & it does mention that the clock spring was changed both times. When the light is on, does it mean the airbag is not working? Is this serious, or can we live with this light on?

We checked the car out thouroughly & didn't find any dead animals or food under the seats. Could it be the vents?
fnkychkn
11-05-2006, 11:06 AM
if airbag warning lamp (in cluster) is on, the airbag will not deploy. get this fixed ASAP.
Slick Magnum
11-05-2006, 03:51 PM
if airbag warning lamp (in cluster) is on, the airbag will not deploy. get this fixed ASAP.

Thanks Fnky. You Da Man! I will make sure they fix this right.
Reppr
11-05-2006, 08:10 PM
I know you said noone spilled anything in your car but, could one of them have spilled some mik in there? Smell the carpet and see?
Slick Magnum
11-05-2006, 08:16 PM
I know you said noone spilled anything in your car but, could one of them have spilled some mik in there? Smell the carpet and see?

The smell showed up a few days after it was at the shop. (My kids are pretty grown up now, 11-22yrs old and haven't been in that car yet.)

We did smell the carpets looking for where the smell is coming from & it seems ok, but it does smell like old milk.

I'm thinking it's coming from the vents when the heat is on.
momsrockinride
11-05-2006, 08:24 PM
if you put your hand waaaaayyy up under the drivers seat there is a slit in the carpet ... if you're brave enough put your hand in there ... you might find the cause of the smell. Just dont ask how I know this.
Slick Magnum
11-05-2006, 08:29 PM
if you put your hand waaaaayyy up under the drivers seat there is a slit in the carpet ... if you're brave enough put your hand in there ... you might find the cause of the smell. Just dont ask how I know this.

Now you have me scared! lol.

But I need to ask........ how do you know & what did you find?
BUTWEET
11-05-2006, 08:31 PM
Sounds like a tech had lunch in your car, and now you're crying over his spilled milk! http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emcrook.gif
hemiwagn
11-05-2006, 08:48 PM
Could the cabin air filter (accessed from the engine bay) be contaminated? ... just a thought...

As to the slit in the carpet -- move the seat way forward first -- you may not have to get your hands so dirty that way.
momsrockinride
11-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Now you have me scared! lol.

But I need to ask........ how do you know & what did you find?

Puke smell - found problem... cleaned up problem. Next day puke smell is stronger like someone added to it-dig around find slit in carpet...put hand in and pulled out somthing that belonged in a sewer treatment plant and not under the carpet of my seat.

If something spilled or rolled up under that part of the carpet it will be trapped between the carpet and the floorboard.
BUTWEET
11-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Eeeeww! :1puke: Puke smell - found problem... cleaned up problem. Next day puke smell is stronger like someone added to it-dig around find slit in carpet...put hand in and pulled out somthing that belonged in a sewer treatment plant and not under the carpet of my seat.

If something spilled or rolled up under that part of the carpet it will be trapped between the carpet and the floorboard.
momsrockinride
11-05-2006, 09:47 PM
Eeeeww! :1puke:

Yeah I almost added to it when I was cleaning it out.
Slick Magnum
11-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Could the cabin air filter (accessed from the engine bay) be contaminated? ... just a thought...

As to the slit in the carpet -- move the seat way forward first -- you may not have to get your hands so dirty that way.

It's a nice day out today so I will check again.
Reppr
11-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Yeah I almost added to it when I was cleaning it out.
I'm sorry... who did you say cleaned that up?
BUTWEET
11-07-2006, 12:32 AM
Oh my! This is gonna be good!!! :popcorn:

Puke smell - found problem... cleaned up problem. Next day puke smell is stronger like someone added to it-dig around find slit in carpet...put hand in and pulled out somthing that belonged in a sewer treatment plant and not under the carpet of my seat.

If something spilled or rolled up under that part of the carpet it will be trapped between the carpet and the floorboard.

Yeah I almost added to it when I was cleaning it out.

I'm sorry... who did you say cleaned that up?
Slick Magnum
11-09-2006, 09:45 PM
So they fixed the airbag light & now the express up doesn't work on the windows. They said to bring it in again & they will fix it & detail the car to get rid of the smell. At least they are trying.
boggart
11-10-2006, 09:42 AM
isn't there a TSB somewhere for a mold/mildew smell in the 2005? Thought there was a procedure to clean out the vents for that. Could that be your smell?
Slick Magnum
11-10-2006, 05:33 PM
Could be! I wasn't aware of a TSB for that. Where do i look for this?
lafrad
11-10-2006, 05:38 PM
Fixing windows from a reset car:

Make both windows go full down and up manually a few times.

Your windows will work again ;-)
lafrad
11-10-2006, 05:38 PM
by "full", push the buttons down till they bottom out, and hold for asecond.
then do full up (without releasing) and hold for a second when they hit full closed.
Slick Magnum
11-10-2006, 05:42 PM
Fixing windows from a reset car:

Make both windows go full down and up manually a few times.

Your windows will work again ;-)

Really? I wish I could have tried this. The shop had the car all day again to fix this.
Meister
11-24-2006, 12:51 AM
So they fixed the airbag light & now the express up doesn't work on the windows. They said to bring it in again & they will fix it & detail the car to get rid of the smell. At least they are trying.What did they do differently this time to actually fix it, SM? Has the light remained off?

The reason your auto up didn't work is that the tech, properly, disconnected your battery before working on the air bag system. Where he erred is in not resetting your window auto up, and, most likely, your ESP steering angle sensor (SAS).

Here, from the service manual, is the official Battery Re-Connect Procedure:

BATTERY RECONNECTION
Note: This reconnection procedure is to be performed anytime the battery has been disconnected.
1. Connect the battery negative cable (2) to the battery post and tighten the clamp nut.
2. Install the rear compartment floor trim panel.

CAUTION: Once the battery has been connected, review and perform the following information as applicable.

AUTO UP FRONT WINDOW
If the vehicle is equipped with the auto-up front window feature, once the battery is reconnected the door module
needs to be calibrated. The door module requires calibration anytime the battery or door module has been disconnected
for any length of time. To calibrate, perform the following:
1. Connect the battery cables.
2. Using the window switch, raise the window to the full UP position. Hold the switch in position for 1 second, then
drive the window all the way down to the bottom.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP)
If the vehicle is equipped with ESP, once the battery is reconnected, the Steering Angle Sensor (SAS) needs to be
calibrated. The SAS requires calibration anytime the battery or an ABS (ESP) component has been disconnected for
any length of time. To calibrate, perform the following:
1. Start the engine.
2. Center the steering wheel.
3. Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left until the internal stop in the steering gear is met, then turn the
wheel all the way to the right until the opposite internal stop in the steering gear is met.
4. Center the steering wheel.
5. Stop the engine.

Note: I've found that if I don't continue to hold the window actuator switches in the full up position for what seems like a minimum of 2 or 3 seconds, at least one of the two windows will need to have the procedure repeated. So don't rush that portion of the reset.
Lidarman
12-09-2006, 09:50 PM
How funny...I have the same issues with the auto windows and the airbag light. I've had the clock spring and airbag module serviced no less than 10 times. Maryland's lemon law doesn't cover my car anymore as I am up at 35,000 miles on my 05 300C.

As for the windows, I thought they were just being tempermental like all cars. I know that they are just metal and mechanical parts, but I swear they have an evil streak in them somewhere! Is it no coincidence that "Christine" was a Chrysler????