+35 offset for my AWD, is this right?

[Spittin Game]

I am looking at some 22" Zinik Ferrara's for my AWD C, and Ive seen pictures of +40, but the wheels Im looking at the highest they come is +35. Will these fit alright? I know the +40 sits perfectly, and I was just worried about the +35 sticking out too much. Will they fit right, does anyone have any pictures of an AWD with the +35 offset?

[Poco Askew]

It all depends on the width of the wheel. +35mm is the correct stock offset for our 7.5" rims and 225 tires. Keeping the offset the same means half of any additional wheel/tire width is going to stick out that much further. With 8.5" rims, +40 up to +45mm can usually be used to keep them tucked in as far as possible.

[done]

It all depends on the width of the wheel. +35mm is the correct stock offset for our 7.5" rims and 225 tires. Keeping the offset the same means half of any additional wheel/tire width is going to stick out that much further. With 8.5" rims, +40 up to +45mm can usually be used to keep them tucked in as far as possible.

On the AWD, the offset is +55. So the rim is going to stick out about 3/8 inch more, plus half the increased width of the new rim.

[SmoovC]

It all depends on the width of the wheel. +35mm is the correct stock offset for our 7.5" rims and 225 tires. Keeping the offset the same means half of any additional wheel/tire width is going to stick out that much further. With 8.5" rims, +40 up to +45mm can usually be used to keep them tucked in as far as possible.

I beleive MMM is running +42mm on his bagged AWD with 20's. Don't quote me, I just seem to remember that #. I am sure he will chime in here.

[Darthvader]

I have 8.5 and 45 mm offset on mine

[Spittin Game]

The offset goes down for plus size rims though right? Cause stock is +55, your 20's are +45, so would +35 be ok for 22's or would it stick out? Bigwheels.net suggests 34-42 for 22's. I just want to make sure these wont stick out at all.

[LowGo]

The offset goes down for plus size rims though right? Cause stock is +55, your 20's are +45, so would +35 be ok for 22's or would it stick out? Bigwheels.net suggests 34-42 for 22's. I just want to make sure these wont stick out at all.

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying. But, the size of the wheel makes no difference as far as offset is concerned. What will affect how much your tires stick out is the offset of the wheel, the width of the wheel, and the width of the tire.

Like 'done' stated, the stock offset is +55. So, if you go +35, you will be pushing your wheel out 20 mm. If you go with 8.5" wide wheels, you will be pushing the wheel out another 1/2" (half of the increase from 7.5 to 8.5). Finally, if you go with a wider tire, half the increase is going out, and half in going in.

I've got 255/45-20's on my AWD Magnum with 8.5" wide wheels and a +42 offset. Visually, the outside of my tires are almost even with the outside of the fender wells in front and a little further in on the backs. If I were to have a +35 offset, my tires would be out an additional 7 mm (about 1/4"). It would work, but if your goal is to keep the tire completely inside the fender, you'd be pushing it.

[Spittin Game]

The only reason I say that is b/c I look on wheel sites and the 20's ALL have a higher offset than the 22's. Ive seen pics and heard from a guy who has 22's with a 40 offset and they dont stick out at all. So thats where Im coming from. And your 20's are 45 offset, but stock 18s are 55, see where Im going with this? Thats why I was wondering if the 35 offset would be right for some 22's.

[bipto]

The only reason I say that is b/c I look on wheel sites and the 20's ALL have a higher offset than the 22's. Ive seen pics and heard from a guy who has 22's with a 40 offset and they dont stick out at all. So thats where Im coming from. And your 20's are 45 offset, but stock 18s are 55, see where Im going with this? Thats why I was wondering if the 35 offset would be right for some 22's.
There is no relationship between wheel diameter and offset measurements. The post above your last explains it pretty clearly...

[LowGo]

Yes, I see what you're saying, but it's not a correct assumption. It makes absolutely no difference what the diameter of the wheel is. An 18" wheel with a +40 mm offset is the same as a 22" wheel with a +40 mm offset as far as where the outside of the tire will be at (based on both tires being the same width).

I chose the +42 mm offset for my car because I went with 8.5" wheels and wider tires. I wanted to keep the inside edge of the tire at the same location it is with the stock setup to avoid any clearance issues. Therefore, I had to use the offset to move the wheels out 1/2 the additional width I was getting.

I'm guessing that your friends 22's with the +40 mm offset has his tires pretty much flush with the outside of the fender well? If you were to use the same setup but with a +35 mm offset, the tires would come out about .2" further.

[MrHemi2U]

I believe mine are a 32 on the offset and are flush with the lip of the fender. If you plan on air bags you'll want to tuck them in more then this.
I hope this helps.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/MrHemi2U/Picture121.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/MrHemi2U/Picture131.jpg

[Spittin Game]

There is no relationship between wheel diameter and offset measurements. The post above your last explains it pretty clearly...

Ok, just thought from what I was reading it was that way. You learn something new everyday.:)

[Spittin Game]

I believe mine are a 32 on the offset and are flush with the lip of the fender. If you plan on air bags you'll want to tuck them in more then this.
I hope this helps.



those are 32 offset? Do they stick out past the wheel well at all?

[Spittin Game]

Ok so a wheel that is 22x9.5 and offset of +35, will this stick out of the fender? Or should I stay with a 22x9.5 with a +40 offset? I dont know how to do the math to calculate this. Thanks!

[LowGo]

Ok so a wheel that is 22x9.5 and offset of +35, will this stick out of the fender? Or should I stay with a 22x9.5 with a +40 offset? I dont know how to do the math to calculate this. Thanks!

Okay, so now you're talking 9.5" wide wheels. That's going to move the wheel out an additional 1/2" over an 8.5" wheel. I would be very concerned about a +35 mm offset with that wheel width (if you're trying to keep the tire inside the wheel well). If a +32 mm offset with a 8.5" wide wheel puts the tire even with the fender well, then a 9.5" wheel is going to stick out 1/2" further.

If it helps, to convert from mm to inches, divide the mm number by 25.4 to get inches (10 mm / 25.4 = .394")

[Spittin Game]

I want it to sit flush with the wheel well, maybe even a few mm inside. Definitely not outside the fender.

[Spittin Game]

Here are the +40 offset in 22". This is what I would like them to look like as far as how far they stick out. These sit prefect.

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/attachments/suspension-handling-modifications/15649-300c-awd-lowered-w-eibach-springs-dsc01242.jpg?d=1152278474

[Spittin Game]

Ok what about a wheel with a 22x8.5 and +40 offset. Will that sit size right in the wheel well?

[LowGo]

Here are the +40 offset in 22". This is what I would like them to look like as far as how far they stick out. These sit prefect.


I'm guessing those are 8.5" wide rims? I can't tell from the picture. If that's the case, then that's pretty much what you would get as well. If you went with 9.5" wide rims, with a +40 offset, the tires would be sticking out 1/2" further than that.

Is that a picture of a lowered AWD?

[Spittin Game]

I think those are 8.5, not 100% sure though. But if I was to go with the 9.5" and the +35 offset, would they fit like that, or stick out a half inch?

And ya thats an AWD lowered with eibach.

[LowGo]

I think those are 8.5, not 100% sure though. But if I was to go with the 9.5" and the +35 offset, would they fit like that, or stick out a half inch?

And ya thats an AWD lowered with eibach.

If the picture is of 8.5" wide wheels with a +40 offset, then if you went with 9.5" wheels with a +35 offset, your tires would stick out about .7" further than those (.5" for the 1" wider wheels, and .2" for the 5 mm offset difference).

I'd say that would put you outside the fenders.

[Spittin Game]

I see, thanks for the help. Why would they make a wheel in an offset that would stick out past the fender? Why wont these companies make them in higher offsets? What a PITA finding 22's for an AWD.

[LowGo]

I see, thanks for the help. Why would they make a wheel in an offset that would stick out past the fender? Why wont these companies make them in higher offsets? What a PITA finding 22's for an AWD.

The AWD's have always been a pain. My guess is that there just aren't enough of our cars to justify the expense of making the wheels. So, they make them to fit a wide variety of vehicles, but not the perfect fit for ours. There are a few wheel companies that will make their wheels to fit your car (like mine, which are made by Boze... they will make them with whatever offset you ask for). Unfortunately, if they don't make a wheel that you like, then that's not going to do you much good (they also tend to be on the more expensive side).

Be sure to seach the forum. There may be someone who has found something that you haven't seen yet. I'm sure there are several still looking for that perfect wheel! :wink:

Good luck in your search.

[Poco Askew]

I just got back into town and noticed my early post with the typo. It looks like you've hashed this out fully, but I'm sorry for adding any confusion. Stock is definitely +55mm (not the 35 I put up). :blam: