How-to Adjust Sunroof Glass

[SDMagnumRT]

I as well as countless other LXers have been plagued by a sunroof that seals well for the first while and then doesn't sit exactly right and it bugs you to death. I have certified this adjustment alcohol friendly so no worries there either..to a point:friday:

Soooo...instead of having to take it to the stealership, get excuses made due to exhaust, baby seats, etc(ask me I got a good one for that) and attempting to get them to adjust it for you why not take it upon yourself to do it as it takes about 5 minutes to get it just right. It can all be found on pages 6750 and 6751 of the LX tech manual which can be found floating around the forum. If you don't have it I highly suggests getting it(it's pricey to buy) because it has a massive wealth of knowledge. It is like having FnkyChkn in your pocket

Tools:

All you are going to need is either a screwdriver with a T25 torx head bit on it or a ratchet with a 3" extension and a 8mm or 5/16" socket on the end.
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(I opted for the screwdriver because the bolt holding the glass is close to the glass and I feared scratching the glass with a ratchet and you can easily tighten it with your screwdriver and you may overtorque it with the ratchet)

Procedure:

1. You need to slide the fabric cover all the way back just as it would be if the sunroof were open. Note the black plastic mechanism cover on each side.

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2. With your finger pull back on the corrugated plastic guard that hides all of your sunroofs uglies. It feels like it should come off but it does and can easily be put right back, which you need to do when done.

NOTE: There are three clips on the sunroof that hold the cover.

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3. Now comes the fun part, about 3/4 of the way from the front of the sunroof glass will be a bolt that has a hexagonal head(for you who want to use a ratchet) and the T25 torx bit slot for you screwdriver folks. (My sunroof is in the vent position for the ease of taking a picture, make sure yours is closed).

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4. The LX Service manual calls for the glass to be 0-2mm BELOW the roof on the front and 0-2mm ABOVE the roof in the rear. The torque spec on the bolts is 5.5 N-m or 47 in-lbs which is not too tight so if you want a torque wrench for it more power to you but I used my calibrated arm for this.

You are going to want to loosen the bolt on the affected side, only do the front or the rear at a time, not all bolts. I put my screwdriver in the bolt as I was standing outside the car and adjusted it from out there because you can tell if it is correct or not and you can tighten it once you get it where it should be. Make sure you are holding the glass as you are tightening it so that it stays where you want it to

NOTE: Due to the weatherseal material on the sunroof glass when holding it where it should be add an extra 2-3mm(less than 1/8th an inch or so) in height so that once it cycles it will seal itself in the proper place since you pushed it where you wanted it to be and the motor didn't.

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5. With all adjusting done, make sure your bolts that you touched are tight or you will need to go back and do this again in the future. Now you need to reattach the mechanism cover to the glass so it looks all pretty again and doesn't do bad things when you go to open the sunroof. You can push it until you feel it not move anymore. To make reattaching this easier you can vent your sunroof but I chose to leave mine closed.

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6. Test the sunroof now by opening it then closing it. It should be just about flush with the roof. Good job. Now to verify you can vent the sunroof and then close it and make sure it looks all pretty.

If you need to tweak it just repeat the steps and you are done. Now you can have a cold one for celebration:beerchug: ......or finish the one you were working on

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Hope this helps all and solves any questions

-Kyle

[bmartin9122]

SDMagnumRT...

Nice KB Post. I have already linked to it on Dodgeboy for a forum member there.

BTW, you have your "dirty Mag" pic for the online M&G!!! j/k

Bean for you!

-Bryan

[sieb]

Sweet, mine just got to the point that I need to do this. Just in time!

[BillyDsl]

Good info and well illustrated..
How often do you have your arm re-calibrated.. couldn't resist.. j/k :mrgreen:

Thanks bunches
BillyD..:thumbs_u:

[marmaduke]

Good write up..

Has anyone had a sunroof that squeaks non stop? Very annoying. I am going to try an adjustment...

[SDMagnumRT]

Good write up..

Has anyone had a sunroof that squeaks non stop? Very annoying. I am going to try an adjustment...

There is a TSB for the squeking sunroof...it is the actual mounting bolts doing that...lemme look for the TSB # and I will update for that. The squek can be recreated by thumping on the glass on the inside or you can always hit a rough patch of road. I am getting mine fixed next time I go to the dealer

EDIT: The squeking sunroof TSB is 23-005-06. You can go to the TSB section and look it up under the 2005 Magnum TSB's. I am sure it applies to others as well.

[BUTWEET]

Excellent "how to!" Good pics and tutorial. Have a bucket of beans! :beerchug:

[Sublimeon22s]

good info, ive been hearing about sunroof problems

[joseph]

Now I can fix mine, which was fine up to a few months ago, but now sit 1/4" low in the back, I just raised it flush with the switch, and never touched it since then, but now I'll fix it for real, thanks a lot:thumbs_u:

[bikerinphx]

thanks for this thread i was just about to takle this on my own but this thread will help a lot thanks

[joseph]

I just did mine.
FYI: you need to loosen both sides to adjust (ie: both front screws loose before adjusting)
My sunroof is kind of sticking in the middle in the rear, I kept adjusting the rear up and there would still be a gap, then I pushed it up and it moved and ended up being ok, but it was sticking in the middle as if it needs an extra push in the middle to close it good.
Any remedy for that sticky middle?, is the motor not strong enough?

[DanRealtor]

I read on the forums previously about using spray silicone to help quiet the sunroof. I finally got around to doing it and WOW: Instant quiet sunroof!

I sprayed the silicone on a rag and wiped down the rubber seal of the sunroof all the way around and wiped down the painted surface that the seal contacts. INSTANT quiet sunroof for the first time ever.

I HIGHLY recommend trying this before you go to the dealer and having them attempt a fix.

Now I can actually drive around wth the shade open and the glass closed without being drven crazy by all the damned noise!

[perfectwave]

Very Nice! Thanks for the info. I will be adjusting this weekend.

Mahalo

[McKinneyMagnum]

I have just done the above trick (for the 2nd time in less than a year) but after I push up the rear and re-tighten both back bolts (one side at a time) then either vent or open the roof entirely, the glass falls back to its original sagging position. Very annoying. Any suggestions for what I am doing wrong. The last time I did this re-adjustment it worked for 6+ months.

[SDMagnumRT]

I have just done the above trick (for the 2nd time in less than a year) but after I push up the rear and re-tighten both back bolts (one side at a time) then either vent or open the roof entirely, the glass falls back to its original sagging position. Very annoying. Any suggestions for what I am doing wrong. The last time I did this re-adjustment it worked for 6+ months.

PM sent

[joseph]

I just did mine.
FYI: you need to loosen both sides to adjust (ie: both front screws loose before adjusting)
My sunroof is kind of sticking in the middle in the rear, I kept adjusting the rear up and there would still be a gap, then I pushed it up and it moved and ended up being ok, but it was sticking in the middle as if it needs an extra push in the middle to close it good.
Any remedy for that sticky middle?, is the motor not strong enough?

No PM for me? (I described the same problem as McKinney and got no help) what's up? am I in your ignore list?

[joseph]

:soapbox: where is the solidarity here?

[fnkychkn]

TSB 23-040-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_2304006.pdf)

[joseph]

TSB 23-040-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_2304006.pdf)

:thumbs_u:

Thank you very much, BRO! :beerchug:
Thing is, it requires starscan, hence, trip to the dealer and money to spend, at least $100 for 1 hr labor (no more warranty), so I'll skip the fix, plus now it's flush since I pushed it up after adjusting it, and I never use the sunroof anyway.

[bikerinphx]

Done worked great thants for the tip.

[blksxt]

i can't get the side pieces back on. help!!!

[a12bee]

Thanks guys. :)

[hyperbolic]

My sunroof wasn't sittiing flush with the top and all I did was hold the vent button in untill the sunroof went to the "full vent" position. After that, and that was two years ago, it's been stopping flush with the roof.

[Dan S.]

Any TSB's or quick fixes for a rattling sunroof (when it is in vent position, squeaks all the time)
Thanks

[Batman]

Very nice write up! Thanks

[Bubba's Dragon]

you should just post the fix, it might help others and save you from PMing them.. Im have this problem and will fix it thanks to your good step by step fix when I get home!
Thanks!
Beeeeeeeaaaaaannnnss!

[radioactive]

I adjusted mine, but it will not stay adjusted. I guess a trip to the dealer to give them $70.00 to reprogram the sunroof.
By the way, I am new to this forum. I have a 2005 Magnum SXT. I priced a SRT last week. I am going to have to wait until next year.

[Magnum375 Jr]

You guys also know that if your sunroof doesn't close the whole way you can just get a buddy, open the rear hatch, locate fuse #44, and start the sunroof back, and about halfway in travel, have that fuse pulled, wait 15 secs, and then put the fuse back in, and then push the foward button on the sunroof, then set to vent, and then close and back open all the way, and then closed again and it is reset.

[LX HEMI]

I tried the adjustment as mentioned above. Very easy, but it's not working! My sunfoof sags in on the rear driver side corner. Enough for water to seep in when it rains or I wash the car. I've noticed a water spot in the inside roof liner! I try the adjustment but it just goes right back to the original sagging spot. Any ideas?

[stitchmonkey]

I tried the adjustment as mentioned above. Very easy, but it's not working! My sunfoof sags in on the rear driver side corner. Enough for water to seep in when it rains or I wash the car. I've noticed a water spot in the inside roof liner! I try the adjustment but it just goes right back to the original sagging spot. Any ideas?

Are you holding it in place when tightening, maybe theres a problrm with the nut or track on that particular side?

[SilvaSurfer]

Very nce write up and a lot of great assistance and feed back... You guys are the best.


Jay

[MYMAG LX]

Thanks good write up mine just stop sealing and was told i had to bring it to the dodge dealer i love to be able to do it yourself. thanks again

[McKinneyMagnum]

Damn sunroof is sagging again!!
Just vented roof, loosed both REAR bolts, close roof and held glass flush while tightening the bolts again. But, the bolts never seem to tighten...they feel as if they are just spinning like they are stripped...is this possible?

If so, can I replace those bolts or is it better to let the dealership do it? Would the TSB on this cover my issue if 2005 is way out of warranty???

[BuckeyeRT]

i love the knowledge base! Mine was sagging and I did the pull fuse 44 thing readjusted the two rear 8mm nuts and I am good to go. You guys rock!

[05infernomagnum]

Awsome write-up, this procedure worked perfectly. Thank you

[dewm1]

My sunroof is sitting low enough in the front that water can seep through the seal and the roofline.
Is there anyway to adjust the front?,, or didn't I read the previous posts correctly? They seemed to be for adjusting the rear edge only?

Thanks guys!

[RunsWithScissors]

Worked like a champ ... 10 minutes, 2 beers and no more drippy roof!!!!!!:not_worth:panic:

[iceman-5076Hemi]

Sorryto drudge up old stuff, but this is an "oldie but goodie"!!!

So I did the adjustment with the help of a buddy and the back kept sagging after adjustment. I was getting ready to do the fuse trick when my buddy noticed that the plastic track is cracked toward the back of the glass.

It seems as though each side of the window has two tracks and both tracks on each side are broke thus causing the saging after the adjustment. Does anyone know if these particular parts can be replaced and if so is it something we can do or does the stealerships have to do it? Funky you seem to be the resident expert on just about everything...any idea?

Thanks to anyone that can help out!!

[fnkychkn]

Sorryto drudge up old stuff, but this is an "oldie but goodie"!!!

So I did the adjustment with the help of a buddy and the back kept sagging after adjustment. I was getting ready to do the fuse trick when my buddy noticed that the plastic track is cracked toward the back of the glass.

It seems as though each side of the window has two tracks and both tracks on each side are broke thus causing the saging after the adjustment. Does anyone know if these particular parts can be replaced and if so is it something we can do or does the stealerships have to do it? Funky you seem to be the resident expert on just about everything...any idea?

Thanks to anyone that can help out!!
can you post a pic pointing out the offending part?
i'm having a hard time visualizing it.

thanks



EDIT: can you see it in this diagram?

https://w05.dealerconnect.chrysler.com/service/mds2002/parts/en_US/1348_SLX_0030.gif

[iceman-5076Hemi]

My camera is busted, but I will see if I can borrow one, but I won't be able to post until Monday of next week.

I will say that the tracks are black in color and look plastic...I will look at your illustration some more and see if I can point it out

[iceman-5076Hemi]

sorry Funky / folks...forgot about the camera on the Iphone! Here are the pics (sorry for the size, I still don't know how to adjust it down to a smaller size)...I put a screw driver right under the track so that you can see what I'm talking about and its right by the crack / broken part. It is broke in another place further toward the front...you can faintly make it out in the pic. The pic is from the rear of the sunroof when its vented. This is on the driver side of the car / sunroof. It's basically a channel that the window slides on and both sides of the channel are cracked / broke and it's the same for the passenger side too.

[fnkychkn]

sorry Funky / folks...forgot about the camera on the Iphone! Here are the pics (sorry for the size, I still don't know how to adjust it down to a smaller size)...I put a screw driver right under the track so that you can see what I'm talking about and its right by the crack / broken part. It is broke in another place further toward the front...you can faintly make it out in the pic. The pic is from the rear of the sunroof when its vented. This is on the driver side of the car / sunroof. It's basically a channel that the window slides on and both sides of the channel are cracked / broke and it's the same for the passenger side too.
i'll have to look at a real one (hopefully tomorrow) before i pass judgement.

[fnkychkn]

finally got to look at one today. that part is only serviced with the sunroof frame assembly.

[Probable Cause]

My '07 MSRT8 is missing the driver's side rear bolt altogether. Despite its model year, I just bought it from a dealer with less than 100 miles on it, so it is basically new...with 3 of 4 bolts. I hope that ratio does not apply elsewhere on the vehicle!

Does anyone have the specs on the thread pitch/length for the bolt or will the dealer be able to find one for me easily? I don't really want to take any of the other three out if I don't need to. I also need the fan-shaped shield piece (#11 above), since I somehow managed to tear it along the bottom. :loser: If anyone knows the part number for it, that would be helpful, too.

thanks

EDIT: I called the dealer and I think they found the correct stuff. I will find out tomorrow. The part numbers still may come in handy if something isn't right with my order, though.

[fnkychkn]

My '07 MSRT8 is missing the driver's side rear bolt altogether. Despite its model year, I just bought it from a dealer with less than 100 miles on it, so it is basically new...with 3 of 4 bolts. I hope that ratio does not apply elsewhere on the vehicle!

Does anyone have the specs on the thread pitch/length for the bolt or will the dealer be able to find one for me easily? I don't really want to take any of the other three out if I don't need to. I also need the fan-shaped shield piece (#11 above), since I somehow managed to tear it along the bottom. :loser: If anyone knows the part number for it, that would be helpful, too.

thanks

EDIT: I called the dealer and I think they found the correct stuff. I will find out tomorrow. The part numbers still may come in handy if something isn't right with my order, though.
side cover bellows P/N 05137558AB.
glass retaining screw P/N 6508405AA

[SDMagnumRT]

glad to see my thread still helps people out

[jclaborn]

it worked like a charm for me. ****ing dealer said it would cost $1700. i like free a lot better. thanks a million

[da BoMM]

well I've done this adjustment (great thread BTW)
but I've maxed out in the height adjustment, and I need another 1/8" --
my sunroof is making wind noise, and in the drying section of the carwash, the 10,000 psi blowers are pushing air thru :panic:

any ideas on why I'm hitting a wall on upward adjustment, when up until 4 months ago i had no issues???
That is to say, is there another adjustment besides the 4 screws?

[fnkychkn]

well I've done this adjustment (great thread BTW)
but I've maxed out in the height adjustment, and I need another 1/8" --
my sunroof is making wind noise, and in the drying section of the carwash, the 10,000 psi blowers are pushing air thru :panic:

any ideas on why I'm hitting a wall on upward adjustment, when up until 4 months ago i had no issues???
That is to say, is there another adjustment besides the 4 screws?

has TSB 23-040-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_2304006.pdf) been performed yet? if not, should have done that first. rare that the glass need adjusting.

[da BoMM]

has TSB 23-040-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_2304006.pdf) been performed yet? if not, should have done that first. rare that the glass need adjusting.


Fnky, you are da MAN!
I hope this might be the fix -- the TSB stops at year 2006, but I assume the 2007 is affected likewise.

Can a layman do this, or does a Dodge shop have to do it?

What should I expect to pay to have this done?

[fnkychkn]

Fnky, you are da MAN!
I hope this might be the fix -- the TSB stops at year 2006, but I assume the 2007 is affected likewise.

Can a layman do this, or does a Dodge shop have to do it?

What should I expect to pay to have this done?you can recalibrate it yourself (need a helper). pretty sure the flash was only for '06 models though.

[nick_danger]

I just tried to do this but the last time I brought it to the dealer, it would seem that they tightened it to unrealistic levels. I can't get the Torx bolt to unscrew - I fear I'm going to strip it.

[da BoMM]

I just tried to do this but the last time I brought it to the dealer, it would seem that they tightened it to unrealistic levels. I can't get the Torx bolt to unscrew - I fear I'm going to strip it.

get the "screwdriver" version -- you virtually can't strip that --
(I used a pliers first time, but all the other times used the screw driver version --
it's pretty much failsafe)

[da BoMM]

you can recalibrate it yourself (need a helper). pretty sure the flash was only for '06 models though.

this was the fix for mine -- super simple -- just pulled fuse 11 while wife was opening the sunroof. re-installed fuse, and roof recalibrated to the correct position.

Again, thanks a million fnky!

[fnkychkn]

this was the fix for mine -- super simple -- just pulled fuse 11 while wife was opening the sunroof. re-installed fuse, and roof recalibrated to the correct position.

Again, thanks a million fnky!
don't you mean fuse 44 in PDC? (sunroof fuse)

[da BoMM]

don't you mean fuse 44 in PDC? (sunroof fuse)

that was 4-5 weeks ago! Yeah, I guess it was 44, not 11. (the memory is slowly slippin away :blam:) still, was such an easy fix !!!

[nick_danger]

Screwdriver version? :confused:

What is this "fuse trick"? I may need to try that.

[fnkychkn]

Screwdriver version? :confused:

What is this "fuse trick"? I may need to try that.
see post #49 for link to "fuse trick".

[nick_danger]

Thanks FNKY! I missed that - I thought it was just a link to a TSB, I didn't realize the TSB actually condoned the hot-removal of fuses. Most excellent. I'll try it at lunch!

[nick_danger]

OK, I did it at work over lunch and it worked! But now it sits too high. So apprently when the dealer "fixed" it last time, they adjusted the bolts rather than reset using the fuse "trick". So now I think I'll have to go to the dealer anyway because I can't loosen that bolt.

Also, I noticed that the dealer also ripped the bellows on both sides to access the bolts... slim chance of me getting them to pay for those. Oh well, lesson learned.

Thanks again, FUNK!

[sound&security]

I have just done the above trick (for the 2nd time in less than a year) but after I push up the rear and re-tighten both back bolts (one side at a time) then either vent or open the roof entirely, the glass falls back to its original sagging position. Very annoying. Any suggestions for what I am doing wrong. The last time I did this re-adjustment it worked for 6+ months.
After you losen the adjustment bolts-go back and make sure the sunroof is closed all the way by hitting the switch again to closed-also adjust it a small amount higher then you want it to sit-then tighten the bolts and than cycle it open and closed.
thats how i have done mine and a half dozen others

[sound&security]

OK, I did it at work over lunch and it worked! But now it sits too high. So apprently when the dealer "fixed" it last time, they adjusted the bolts rather than reset using the fuse "trick". So now I think I'll have to go to the dealer anyway because I can't loosen that bolt.

Also, I noticed that the dealer also ripped the bellows on both sides to access the bolts... slim chance of me getting them to pay for those. Oh well, lesson learned.

Thanks again, FUNK!
those pieces are $6 a piece if you have to buy them

[nick_danger]

Ouch! :D
those pieces are $6 a piece if you have to buy them

[Shane T.]

Just finished this one and all I can say is WOW... I forgot how quite these cars were inside. Thanks alot, and for what it is worth don't goto the dealer on this one. It takes 5 minutes at most.

Shane T.

[fnkychkn]

Just finished this one and all I can say is WOW... I forgot how quite these cars were inside. Thanks alot, and for what it is worth don't goto the dealer on this one. It takes 5 minutes at most.

Shane T.
as i mentioned more than once in this thread, glass adjustment should only be done as a last resort, after the sunroof has been recalibrated and flashed (if applicable).
see TSB 23-040-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_2304006.pdf) for details.

[digitaldweller]

I signed up just so I can reply to say 'you guys rock!' My wife has been complaining about the sunroof not seating right, found your post, ran the TSB, done.... Even my buddy Jeep guy said I need to go to the dealer for this...

Thanks a bunch!

[2005_300c]

I also had luck recalibrating the sunroof by having a buddy pull the fuse for the sunroof in the truck while venting up,, Than put the fuse back in an
move the sun roof in and out a few times. this seem to help my very sagging
sunroof, i attempted this fix but messed up corrugated plastic guard, ripped it a little,