The LY Platform

[DMAG]

Since there is alot of talk regarding the next generation of the venerable LX platform (codenamed "LY"), we decided to start a new forum to post any related news and info.

Got some recommendations as to what should be on the next generation of you Magnum, Charger or 300? What features do you want to see on the Challenger? Interested in an Imperial? Post it in this forum. You never know who might be reading. :wink:

Cheers!

[nick_danger]

I thought LY was just a "spinoff" platform in addition to the LX platform. You're saying that all current LX cars are moving to LY? I thought LY was just for the Challenger and similar 2-door vehicles. Hmmph, I didn't know that.

Well, I can think of one thing DCX can do right away: make the LY computer easier to tinker with. It's really lame not being able to fully utilize mods ranging from the engine to traction control to simple things like the stereo without buying expensive adapters and getting headaches. Considering a purely muscle-bound vehicle like the Challenger is heading up the LY series, it's only right that owners be able reach 700HP without dealing with electronics issues.

There's a reason that Mustangs are so wildly popular in the muscle tuner segment, and as sexy as the Challenger is, looks don't mean nuthin' at the track against 11sec Stangs.

[FOHN_JARGO]

Overall I am pleased with the Magnum. However there is always room for improvment.

I would like to see a radio that, after the car is shut off and then gets restarted later, self adjusts the volume to a level that won't blow out my eardrums. I have this on my 2001 Sport Trac.

A non-smokers package would be nice too. No ashtrays to deal with, just power outlets for the electronics we all use these days.

Pockets on the backs of the front seats would be nice too.

Cup holders that are not in the fold down part of the back seat. They are useless with a baby seat installed.

[DMAG]

I thought LY was just a "spinoff" platform in addition to the LX platform. You're saying that all current LX cars are moving to LY? I thought LY was just for the Challenger and similar 2-door vehicles. Hmmph, I didn't know that.

All next gen cars are moving to the LY platform.

[crhemi]

Oscilating head rest. Like my H2 and Avalanche had.

[shrinkydinx]

Pockets on the backs of the front seats would be nice too.i prefer not having pockets... they just get filled up with crap, and eventually stretched out till they look like crap...

[Reduas1]

Cup coolers in the center console like the cool zone in the Caliber.

[FUTUREDCXDESIGNER]

Cup coolers will probably show up. The new Sebring has heated and cooled cup holders.

[67alecto]

Cup coolers will probably show up. The new Sebring has heated and cooled cup holders.

Think about this, though. The Challenger is going to be a "muscle" car. Not a utilitarian (i.e. Sebring or Caliber).

I wouldn't bet on a cooler.

[67alecto]

I would like to see a radio that, after the car is shut off and then gets restarted later, self adjusts the volume to a level that won't blow out my eardrums. I have this on my 2001 Sport Trac.


Heh, this reminds me of a George Carlin bit where he talks about driving around.

It goes something like:

You're driving around, maybe it's raining. You've got the windows down a little, the outside air vents are blowing, traffic's busy, etc, etc, etc.

You get out of the car, run your errands, get back in, start the car, and the ******* radio is this loud!

Could I have been listening to that? I think someone broke into my car and fiddled with my radio controls!

[jbp-ohio]

What features do you want to see on the Challenger?

A real shaker hood scoop!!!

[MikeEast]

a price tag I can afford

Mike

[SDMagnumRT]

How's about a MAF sensor instead of air density so that a CAI will actually accomplish something other than sound

[Poco Askew]

This probably isn't a must for the Challenger, but if all LX vehicles are moving to the LY, better interior materials would be nice. The Magnum looks great from the outside, but kinda cheap-o on the inside. Too many color variations and too much hard plastic and pleather, IMO.

All controls around the steering wheel, should be mounted to the wheel. I hate the cruise control on the LXs.

No chrome on the dash or console - it always catches the sun and momentarily blinds me or my passenger.

[BobF's 6POINT1]

There has to be a way to shave off 400 pounds from this pig and still have it be safer than it is now.

Definitely the 7-speed MB trans at least as an option.

As for the computer, GM is coming up with some sedans that compete very favorably with the DCX vehicles. All things being equal, I know I could tune the GM cars for performance and I'm not opposed to going back to them.

[wbornio]

I'd love to see the classic colors return...

plum crazy
lemon twist
petty blue

and call me crazy - a vinyl top. Yeah - I said it - you heard right - a vinyl top for my challenger. White on plum crazy...

with Shaker - bazooka exhaust tips and a crappy am 8 track.

ok the am 8 track was a joke... but the rest I really would like to see.

[ASU_Magnum]

personally I am hoping they discontinue the mag before a new model comes out. I like having a one off car. Having an older model mag doesn't sound right =\

[BobF's 6POINT1]

personally I am hoping they discontinue the mag before a new model comes out. I like having a one off car. Having an older model mag doesn't sound right =\

You'll probably get your wish.

[blackmagsxt]

I agree


quote=ASU_Magnum]personally I am hoping they discontinue the mag before a new model comes out. I like having a one off car. Having an older model mag doesn't sound right =\[/quote]

[1MRMOPAR]

ASU-MAg, I am with you on this one. I like the idea of having a one off car that is hard to find rather than "the older" model. Cudas have always been a popular car in the muscle car arena and they only made them for 5 years.

[DMAG]

Just a note: You don't have to put your ideas in THIS thread. Make some new ones in this section! :wink:

[bikerinphx]

what about a rag top for the charger or challenger, and fix the back side window so it lines up the the rear door window.

[67alecto]

Just a note: You don't have to put your ideas in THIS thread. Make some new ones in this section! :wink:

In other words, GET OUTTA MY THREAD!:Na_Na_Na_Na:

[pbf00t]

Simple, a manual transmission. Leave the rest of it alone.

[GoldNnasty]

How's this for thinking:

LX = 4 door format (300, Charger, Magnum)
LY = 2 door format (Challenger)

So, with this in mind, it becomes the "L" (Lovable, Lords,) family:blam:
(...".WHAT?...okay!.....I know!, I missed this mornings meds, but I was busy!"......:racing: )

Just thimpkin outside the box (or padded room):Na_Na_Na_Na:

:popcorn:

[MemphisNET]

LY appears to be a revision of LX and nothing more. Think of the LH cars move from 1st gen to 2nd... not a whole lot different, just more refined.

[CHARGERSHED]

Actually, LY is going to be the cornerstone platform for all of DCx for the forseeable future... the Challenger/300/Charger/ magnum( or 300 touring is being kicked around) and the M-B Eclass,Rclass etc.....

[DragginWagon]

How about more SRT-10 models, such as the Challenger and Charger?

[Jaak]

How about putting their lawyers to work doing something useful instead of shutting down people playing with HAL for fun..

[rander]

Well done!!!

How about putting their lawyers to work doing something useful instead of shutting down people playing with HAL for fun..

[D-RT]

Fuq frills like cup holders etc. Make them readily accessable for modding or basically whatever the owner sees fit.

Im so disappointed at how restrictive my Magnum is. It cost an arm and a let just to attain meager performance gains it any at all.

Basically they should have released the concept Magnum as standard.

[flhthemi]

How about multiport fuel injection?

[Top Banana #11]

I have a Dodge Charger Daytona and my only beef with it is I would have preferred a manual transmission. Sports cars are supposed to be stick IMO.

[smoove7410]

:rock: No offense, but our cars are not sports cars. Sports cars have two door. Four doors, in my mind, makes it a sedan. I wish they had a DSG transmission though.

[Plain Old Dave]

For my part, I would like to see more heritage based names.

Magnum and Charger: Dart, D-500, or Polara Sedan and Wagon

300: (with 2.7 or 3.5) New Yorker, (with Hemi) Three Hundred. (SRT-8) 300-N

For the uninitiated, Mother MoPar didn't just figure "300" sounded cool as a name for a car. The 1955 Chrysler C-300 (the ORIGINAL American performance car) was the first American car to have 300 stock HP, thus the name. In 1956, to preserve the cachet of America's only supercar, the new 300 was called the 300B, 1957 was the 300C and so on. In 1962, when the 300 Sport came out, the name was generally spelled out on the quarter panels. A '64 Three Hundred was basically a Chrysler Windsor with a stiff suspension, and there were plenty of 4 door Three Hundreds built between 1962 and 1971. Every one of them had 300+ hp, though.

Resolved:
-A Charger does not have 4 doors
-Neither does a Magnum
-A 300 C is a 1957 Chrysler with 375hp

Other Ideas:

-The "Charger" front clip on the Magnum

-More Chrome! (even if just plated plastic)

-A more formal roofline on the "Charger". It reminds me of the Intrepid, and those giant blind spots are one of the primary reasons I went with a Crown Vic.

-Pushbutton automatic

-Bench seats and column shift if the Feds won't allow pushbutton automatics

-Engineer a new starter that will sound like a 60s MoPar

[Top Banana #11]

No offense, but our cars are not sports cars. Sports cars have two doors. Four doors, in my mind, makes it a sedan. I wish they had a DSG transmission though.

According to you that would mean the Toyota Echo, Smart TwoFour, Pontiac Sunfire, etc. are sports cars cause they have two doors? :doh:

[aries4life]

My insurance company calls it a sports car. It handles like a sports car. It accelerates like a sports car (13.5 secs @ 103 mph in a 1/4 mile for me). It tops out like a sports car (160+ mph for me). It stops like a sports car . The dragstrip crew stopped talking trash to me in staging after I embarrased a few of the cars they thought were fast. Why, again, is it not a sports car?

[pir8magnum]

They need to improve interior fit and finish, with better materials.

The visors/vanity mirrors on the Magnum are horrifically cheap looking. I've seen better materials in a daewoo. (the visors, anyway).

[Plain Old Dave]

They need to improve interior fit and finish, with better materials.


This has been a Chrysler problem for 35-40 years. Talk to people that remember when the E-bodies were new. They were rattletraps by the time they had 10K on them.

[Rapid/Transit]

Padded Armrests and Padded Console Covers. My elbows are sore.

Ed

[smoove7410]

According to you that would mean the Toyota Echo, Smart TwoFour, Pontiac Sunfire, etc. are sports cars cause they have two doors? :doh:
NO. It is not a sports car because it is 2 doors. Having two doors is a prerequisit to being a sports car. While these cars perform very very well, they are not sports cars. They do not handle like sports cars.:thumbs_u:

[pir8magnum]

Well, maybe the LY platform is when they can finally address it. Im not holding my breath though.

Seriously though, the car I traded in on my magnum was a Mazda that cost about 18k, and the interior fit and finish was leaps and bounds better than my Magnum..hands down. It looked like a BMW in there. Don't get me wrong, I love the Magnum, but wish that I could love EVERYTHING about it, and not just some things, while others end up being a compromise.

This has been a Chrysler problem for 35-40 years. Talk to people that remember when the E-bodies were new. They were rattletraps by the time they had 10K on them.

[Beast]

If they continue to lock out performance enthusiasts than they'll loose market share. Open up that computer to reputable vendors.

[SgtStank]

I currently do not own an LX, but have done quite a bit of work on one in particular belonging to a friend of mine. After a year or so, I finally managed to move past my K-car prejudice I've lovingly held on to for so many years... Dodge 400 Anybody? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_400) I like the overall design and quality of the LX line and the next-generation LY looks to address at least some of the interior fit and quality concerns posted here. I plan on owning the Challenger SRT-8 when they get it out, assuming it releases without any major cosmetic changes over what's circulating now. A Challenger SRT-8 in my opinion IS a sports car by the standards of the muscle car era it's convincingly portraying, however maybe not a sports car in the sence of the upcoming Toyota Mark V Supra re-release which will have a 450hp V8 :not_worth. (sorry, I'm also a Toyota fan! Ever seen a 1997 Mark IV Supra with over 1400hp running sub 8s 1/4 miles?). DCX has gained ALOT of respect from me with their accomplishments with the LX platform, and I whole heartedly believe the LY will be even more impressive technologically and that we should see platform wide improvements in interior fit, finish and function adopted from the sister LY Mercedes offerings. I've had alot of fun playing with the electronics on the car and we've still got some cool projects going on over at Carhack.org (http://www.carhack.org) and some great ideas that may or may not materialize, depending on user demand. Knowind that our work there will port over to the LY for the most part AND we'll have even more fun stuff to tear apart and improve on has me convinced I'll be tearing up some asphalt by the end of this decade...

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

If they continue to lock out performance enthusiasts than they'll loose market share. Open up that computer to reputable vendors.

The manufacturers don't want customers playing in their computers. It opens up warranty claims, and it opens them up to issues with the Fed in relationship to fuel economy and emmisions.

GM and Ford will both be clamping down on their computers in the near future. They will have to, if not before, whenever OBD III comes around, can you spell "Lockdown"!

Mr MoPar

[ehattey]

They need to improve interior fit and finish, with better materials.

The visors/vanity mirrors on the Magnum are horrifically cheap looking. I've seen better materials in a daewoo. (the visors, anyway).

i completely agree with you, that the materials need to be changed. BUT, i think we can all agree that the style of the interior is alot more aggressive than what you will find in any ford or chevy. You feel like you are sitting in a fast car when you sit down in a Magnum, and you feel like you are sitting in a luxury car when you sit in a 300. Now if only they used some nicer padding and materials.... or padding period.

[madmic]

My insurance company calls it a sports car. It handles like a sports car. It accelerates like a sports car (13.5 secs @ 103 mph in a 1/4 mile for me). It tops out like a sports car (160+ mph for me). It stops like a sports car . The dragstrip crew stopped talking trash to me in staging after I embarrased a few of the cars they thought were fast. Why, again, is it not a sports car?
it's a sporty sedan.

[MCaesar]

* Weight reduction of about 200 pounds is reasonable. I don't want it 500 pounds lighter because then you would have to give up something like space, IRS, or safety

* Variable valve timing. That could add more power, better MPG

* Direct injection - may be too expensive except for SRT models

* LSD - ESP alone can not replace a good Quaife rear

* More time spent on suspension tuning. Specifically, better shock control

* Improved steering gears - the steering in these cars is not up to industry standrads for road feel

* A true handling package for non-SRT cars

* Lower beltlines for better visibility

* SMG style transmission for performance models, 6 speed auto for others

* High MPG option (diesel or hybrid) for the low priced volume leaders

* AWD option on SRT sedans

* SUV based on LY platform to lower overall costs. The current Durango is ugly anyway

[moonstreaker]

They seriously need to use better leather for the seats. I've seen quite a few LX's that the drivers seat looks like it has 100k mi on it after 10-15k mi. That's completely unacceptable.

[Kevlar]

I would love a better interior. all tho I like the Cleanliness if the interior its not over powering and leaves more of an open pallet for Moddi'n. Oh and I love the reducing radio volume upon restart, that would be one of my biggest gripes.

According to you that would mean the Toyota Echo, Smart TwoFour, Pontiac Sunfire, etc. are sports cars cause they have two doors? :doh:

I don't Know what you guys are thinkin Mine is MODERN MOPAR MUSCLE in its little 3.5 heart if nothing else.