General Grabber UHP in 255X55X18

[FloridaRT]

Has anyone tried the General Grabber UHP tires yet? In 255X55X18 size?

I kind of like the thread design, but wonder how they are in the real world.

Any comments????????

Bob

[MomsR/T]

would rather you run a 255/50 instead.....

The 255/55 would look like an offroad vehical IMO

[bigjim]

I have the grabber UHP 245/45 18 tires. They are the biggest CAR tires available. Why would you want TRUCK tires on a high performance car????????????????????????????????????????????

[Gameboy]

with 50 series, if your at stock height, your going to add to the already large wheel gap. I don't believe General makes these in any size other than 55 in an 18" rim. but what type of tire are you looking for, performance or durabilty, etc. I believe this particular tire is an SUV tire.

[MAGNUM8R]

The BFG KDW 255/55/18 IS a Performance Tire!!

[Banshee]

I was thinking about the same tire.

not much differance between the two in size. The General is .400 wider then the KDW

Tire Rack specs

grabber UHP
255/55 WR18
109W XL 360 A A
2271 lbs.
51 psi
11/32"
35 lbs.7-9"
8"
10.4"
NA
29"
718

BFG KDW 255/55/18
255/55 VR18
109V RF 300 AA A
2271 lbs.
50 psi
10/32"
35 lbs.7-9"
8"
10"
NA
29"
717

[NC-SXT]

Bob , been thinking the same thing. I will need some new paws after the shindig trip. Would like to see these up close.

[MomsR/T]

I highly recommend our Coopers.........

They have no road noise, they are V rated, and a 420 or 440 tread wear rating.

Someone else here said they had them too.......they liked them as well.

We got the 255/50/VR18

[FloridaRT]

Thanks guys, the General Grabber I was looking at is NOT a truck tire, it is a high performance tire that is ZR rated.

I was going to get the B F G g-force KDW-NT, but the thread design does nothing for me.

I will have to check out the Coopers..............what is the model name?????

I still like the looks of the General's..........

Plenty of time to look around, won't need the tires until this winter......if we do have a "winter" here in Florida.........LOL

Almost 19K on my Conti's..........still have lot of thread left, yes, I do spin em'...........LOL

Bob

[Todd RT]

Hey Bob... They make the BFG KDW in a normal tread... it just doesn't come in the 255/55/18.

[bigjim]

Thanks guys, the General Grabber I was looking at is NOT a truck tire, it is a high performance tire that is ZR rated.

I was going to get the B F G g-force KDW-NT, but the thread design does nothing for me.

I will have to check out the Coopers..............what is the model name?????

I still like the looks of the General's..........

Plenty of time to look around, won't need the tires until this winter......if we do have a "winter" here in Florida.........LOL

Almost 19K on my Conti's..........still have lot of thread left, yes, I do spin em'...........LOL

Bob



The "Grabber" series tires are truck tires. The one you are looking at weighs 35 pounds. The "Exclaim" series are high performance car tires, The 245/45 18s weigh 27 pounds, this is a huge difference in performance and response. The 245s are "short" and need the superchips to adjust the diameter if the speedometer will be correct.
To me the added 32 pounds of rotating mass is a performance and ride damping issue. If they fit your need, cool. They are truck tires.

[FloridaRT]

After reading more about the General tires, I agree that it is not a good choice.

So far the B F Goodrich tire seems to be the one to buy.

Thanks,

Bob

[MaineMagnumRT]

I just snagged two 255/55 r18's conti 4x4 tires out of the junk tire pile at work. My plan is to put them on my extra wheels and pull fuse 17 and have just smoke em. I just want to confirm that they will work before I have one of the tech's at work stay late to help me mount them. They are a truck tire but they will only be on the car for burnouts. From what i've read I should be okay but if not please let me know.

[bigjim]

:TTIWWP:

There MUST be a video of it, but yeah, they should work fine for a smoke show. BE CAREFUL, if they hook up you may be in for a ride.

[joseph]

What a coincidence, I was looking at the tirerack and I was seriously thinking about buying the grabbers in 255/55-18, I already have goodyear 255/55-18 on the RT but they are pretty much dead.
I like the grabbers for the thread design good for evacuating water, and deep thread, plus can't beat the price.
On the negative side, you guys say they are heavy at 35 lb each, what would be considered an OK weight for the Mag?
The KDW weight 35 lb too, so what's the big deal?
Anything light in 255/55-18?

[joseph]

Hey "Florida RT" have you bought those grabbers yet, I wanna know how they ride, if they grip, and if they are noisy or ok, since they are considered truck tires. BTW, isn't the magnum an SUV according to the EPA?
I will get those tire (99% sure) in september when it's start raining, right now the wheater is still good and dry, so I'll wait a month or two.

[FloridaRT]

Nope, Have not bought any tires yet, still waiting for my Conti's to wear out. Maybe later this year, have 20,000 miles on the originals, still have thread left.

Bob

[joseph]

When I get mine in a month or two, I'll let you guys know how they perform.

[Scott]

What a coincidence, I was looking at the tirerack and I was seriously thinking about buying the grabbers in 255/55-18, I already have goodyear 255/55-18 on the RT but they are pretty much dead.
I like the grabbers for the thread design good for evacuating water, and deep thread, plus can't beat the price.
On the negative side, you guys say they are heavy at 35 lb each, what would be considered an OK weight for the Mag?
The KDW weight 35 lb too, so what's the big deal?
Anything light in 255/55-18?

The new 255/55 size GY GS-D3 that you alerted us to is listed at tirerack at 31 lb.

Which model GY 255/55 have you worn out?

Re: tire weight. Tires have a mix of characteristics and compromises. You get to pick the characteristics that you favor. So if you want to go for a small light tire like 245/45-18, that is 1.9 inches shorter than stock. Make sure you are okay with the additional gap in wheel-wells, lower ground clearance, and have a plan to deal with the resulting speedo error because that is beyond the stock adjustment range.

[joseph]

I have the Eagle LS2, they aren't worth a dime on water, I hit a puddle and I have no traction until the tires dry out, I don't know if they sucked new or if it's because there is not much life left in them. they're 255/55-18.
I want the GS-D3, but I can't afford them, I need something in the low $100. I wanted the KDW2, they're great for the price, but they are a real hazard if driven in light snow or light ice conditions, and since I can't afford 2 sets of 4 tires, I'm leaning toward the grabbers, they're a good compromise in price, aggresive tread, light snow capable, I just hope they won't be noisy.

[Scott]

PaulFix runs the Gen Grabbers. He says they are "maybe a little noisy". http://www.lxforums.com/board/showpost.php?p=433424&postcount=23

Tirerack's rating shows the Grabbers quieter than the KDW2's, which some people find noisy.

Would you notice tire noise with blastin' bob's exhaust?

Thanks for the warning on the GY Eagles, I hate tires that don't perform well on wet roads.

[joseph]

I didn't even know tirerack had a rating on tire noise.

[joseph]

Check this comparison:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/CompareTires.jsp?resultsNumberSelected=Y&displayResults=10&compare=true&compareList=17&RunFlat=All&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&width=255%2F&ratio=55&diameter=18&startIndex=10&sortValue=1

The LS2 suck just as I experienced, look at the bad ratings they get (max load is low too), KDW2 is not as good as I hoped, I am disappointed in the noise rating and they weigh 35lb., GSD3 are the best and they weigh 31lb., grabber is real good overall, grip is good, price is good, they weigh the same as the KDW2 so it's not that bad, noise rating is good, and the have the highest speed rating.
I'll get the grabbers for sure in a month or two, I'll post my evaluation.

[joseph]

I ordered the tires, but I couldn't get them because my credit for them from tirerack was declined, so, I'll buy 2 for the rear in 3-4 weeks and the other 2 a month later or so.

[joseph]

FLRT: have you or anyone else bought those tires yet?

[joseph]

http://www.tiredeals4less.com/NEXEN_Roadian_HP_255_55R18_P3420.cfm

How about the Rodian HP (only 22lbs), are they good, I found them here for $82 and shipping is real good.

They also are very light, only 22 pounds, that's quite amazing considering that the UHP, KDW2 and GSD3 weight about 32-35 lb each, 22 pound 255/55-18 tires must reduce mass and reduce braking, what do you think?

[FloridaRT]

FLRT: have you or anyone else bought those tires yet?

I went with the BFG's...................KDW's..........am very happy.

Bob

[joseph]

Here they say the rodian weight 40Lbs., go figure.
http://www.eastcoasttires.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idProduct=11167

I'm getting the UHP from here: http://www.tiredeals4less.com/GENERAL_Grabber_UHP_255_55R18__P2493.cfm
They also have Proxes ST for $115.

[joseph]

http://www.tiredeals4less.com/TOYO_Proxes_ST_255_55R18_109V_P1072C165.cfm

I'm seriously thinking about buying the Toyo Proxes ST, they look better, and they have better ratings than the Grabbers: http://www.1010tires.com/tiresearch.asp?brand=Toyo&category=Light+Truck

[moparman53]

I highly recommend our Coopers.........

They have no road noise, they are V rated, and a 420 or 440 tread wear rating.

Someone else here said they had them too.......they liked them as well.

We got the 255/50/VR18

I just tried Cooper's website. It sucks. They tried to get fancy with it and I can't find any sizes.

[joseph]

I just ordered the Toyo proxes ST from this place, $543.39 (incl. ship. to 89119) for 4 tires 255-55/18.
I'll make a new thread when I get them.
http://www.tires-easy.com/start.html

from 1010 tires.com:
The Toyo® Proxes S/T high performance sport truck and SUV radial delivers a powerful combination of superb handling, confident all-season performance, and a smooth, stable ride. The H and V speed rated Proxes S/T offers plus-sizing opportunities on pick-up trucks and sports utility vehicles.

Features:
Mud and snow (M&S) rated for all-season performance.
High angle tread groove to resist aquaplaning.
Low angle tread grooves excellent for wet handling.
High ply turn-up casing construction for handling and stability.
High bead filler for excellent steering response.
Jointless two-cap ply for high-speed endurance.
Cap/base compound for high speed durability. The base compound helps the tire run cooler. The cap compound provides high friction and wear resistance.
Rim protector to guard against wheel and sidewall damage.
High tensile steel belts for ride comfort and stable ride.
High-modulus bead filler and strong polyester casing assure responsive handling with excellent ride comfort.
Aggressive tread pattern and sidewall design for sporty appearance.

Reviews: http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews/Toyo_Proxes_ST_tire_reviews.html

[billy@bonesenterprises]

i know they are a bit pricey but the correct tire size to run and still be the same overall diameter as the stock 225 60 18 is a 245 55 18 and the only one we have found and sell a lot of is the BFG KDWS. its a true car tire, its considered and ultra high performance all season tire and is Z rated with a 400 tread ware a traction rating of A and a temp. rating a A. I still have not figured out why so many of you are running the big 255 55 18s. i guess mainly because they are so many to choose from and they are relatively inexpensive compared to the 245 55 18s. but to me a big truck tire on a high performance car just goes against the grain a bit too much. hopefully this helps. good luck everyone.

[FloridaRT]

Because everyone beleives that bigger is better.....................LOL

Bob

[PaulFix]

I have the UHP grabbers on my summer rims, they are a little noisy ( tire rumble) but give great grip, slow wear and look great. They where also a super deal.

I probably would not get them again but that decision is a couple of years off yet.

[MikeEast]

I don't remember if they make the BFG KDW2's in 245 or not, but I went for the 255/55-18's because I like a little sidewall on my tires. That's the first part of the suspension and I really don't like how the little short sidewall tires ride. Plus they do not protect the rims either.

I have about 12,000 hard miles on them now and see no appreciable signs of wear. If you run 'normal' tire pressures they are indeed a noisy tire, I run 40psi and they are a lot quieter that way. Still a little rumble at a few low speeds but nothing to write home about.

I'll probably buy another set when I go through these...

Mike

[joseph]

Why would you go 245 if 255 is the max that will fit, if I'm gonna buy new tires, I'll get the widest ones possible that will fit my rims without rubbing and 255 fill in the wells better too.
I wish I could put 275 rear without any mods:wink:

[maneval69]

I have the General Grabber UHP 255/55's waiting to be installed.
I don't care if there called truck tires (street/sport) . Which, as far as I can tell only has to do with the size.
They have a ZR speed rating and they have a better UTQG rating than the KDW2 tires (Which are ultra high performance car tires).

[joseph]

Plus, our magnums are classified are SUV's:wink:
Anyway, when you think about it, what matters is the speed rating, load rating and most importantly, the weight of the tire, so wether they are for cars or SUV's doesn't matter that much if the numbers are good, plus our cars are heavy, so I would feel better knowing I have strong tires that can take the load.
Furthermore, nowadays, SUV's are driven like cars, hard and fast with no need for off road capability, so many SUV tires are designed for performance and comfort, as opposed to 10-20 years ago, when they were desiged for off roading.

[FloridaRT]

Why would you go 245 if 255 is the max that will fit, if I'm gonna buy new tires, I'll get the widest ones possible that will fit my rims without rubbing and 255 fill in the wells better too.
I wish I could put 275 rear without any mods:wink:


For some reason, the 245's have a different thread pattern than the 255's.

Check it out.

Bob

[maneval69]

For some reason, the 245's have a different thread pattern than the 255's.

Check it out.

Bob
They are actually different tires.
The 255's are KDW-2 tires and the 245's are KDWS tires.

[joseph]

I got them, here they are (Proxes ST): http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?p=721814#post721814

[cadzilla74]

You can call the BFG KDW2 or aka KDW-NT a truck tire if you wish. My personal experience compared to the OEM 225-60-18 Conti's is night and day. The BFG's are far superior on wet roads and my cornering force running 36 psi has increased to the point where I now consider fatter sway bars to be required as my next mod. I used to be able to make the ESP light flash regularly with hard driving on the Contis on dry roads. I have to drive the same speeds on the same corners to get ESP to even "blink" at me in the pouring rain with the BFGs.

[baileydale]

Just put the Grabber UHP 255 55 18 on both my Mags yesterday ( RT and SE)initial impression is that I love them.I don't think they are loud at alland they ride so much better that the crappies.Sho do fill up the wheel well!!!Now if they willjust last !!

[joseph]

I still have not figured out why so many of you are running the big 255 55 18s. i guess mainly because they are so many to choose from and they are relatively inexpensive compared to the 245 55 18s. but to me a big truck tire on a high performance car just goes against the grain a bit too much. hopefully this helps. good luck everyone.

That "big truck" tire is 28.50 in diameter, what is it stock already?

HP car, are you kidding yourself, last time I checked, a 4200lb car was not considered a HP car, it's not a porshe.

[provoke]

I just got the Grabber UHP 255/55/18 on my maggie. So far i love them. They create such a smooth ride, especially at high speeds. Hell I hardly notice any difference when driving 100+.

They are nice and meaty. I love the strength of the sidewalls - corners like a dream without the stress and pull you feel on the sides.

Initial Impressions is that these are bad ass cheap tires. Just have to wait until I get some real mileage on them

[arzjose]

I HAVE THE Falken Tires STZ04 255/55-18 ABOUT A WEEK THEY TO BAD IN WET CONDITION IF LIKE DRIFTING BUY THEM IS CRAZY Y GOING TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR BFGOODRICH 255/55-18 109V GFTAKDW RF ORBL FROM SEAR AUTO CENTER
(http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/tires_brand/tire_detail.php?id=553)

[joseph]

I HAVE THE Falken Tires STZ04 255/55-18 ABOUT A WEEK THEY TO BAD IN WET CONDITION IF LIKE DRIFTING BUY THEM IS CRAZY Y GOING TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR BFGOODRICH 255/55-18 109V GFTAKDW RF ORBL FROM SEAR AUTO CENTER
(http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/tires_brand/tire_detail.php?id=553)

Que?

[greggk]

i had these tires size 285/50r20's on my durango and would DEFINITELY purchase these again. awesome grip wet or dry, quite, and great ride... much recommended!