Electrofied
11-23-2005, 04:28 PM
Went in for my alignment on Dirty Girl this morning… This was due to getting the Eibach race springs installed on Saturday just to make sure everything was up to snuff.
In speaking with the technician, I found out some interesting things. He checked the TSB’s including the engine cradle issue causing right pull, which has not been an issue with Dirty Girl.
As for the specs from Dodge, they have a whole sheet stating what to adjust and to which measurement, interesting part is that the Magnum does not have a place where one can adjust castor or camber. I know there is an aftermarket camber kit for the car, but that is neither here no there.
Due to the Eibach 2” drop race springs it is throwing the settings off a bit and the tech could not get her into preferred tolerances. What affect this will have? I do not know… It looks like I am running more camber so I am assuming I will get more tire wear on the inside… Seems to be great for turning though.
I would prefer to run less camber and more caster to keep the tires flatter on the ground when going straight.
She drives straight and true with no pull. Taking my hands off the wheel she simply goes dead straight with no input from the steering wheel.
Please note, the Left Front Camber number decreases when the driver gets in due to weight which explains the unloaded value of -.08 verses the right hand side of -1.4. The technician said this was normal and sees it on most cars especially newer ones.
I am still concerned however, even if only by tenths of degrees that there is such a huge difference from left to right, both in the front and in the rear.
Actual Prior
Left Front
Camber -.8
Caster 11.1
Toe .40
Right Front
Camber -1.4
Caster 11.3
Toe .43
Left Rear
Camber -1.0
Toe .07
Right Rear
Camber -1.4
Toe -.05
Actual After Alignment:
Left Front
Camber -.7
Caster 11.1
Toe .01
Right Front
Camber -1.3
Caster 11.3
Toe 0
Left Rear
Camber -1.0
Toe .06
Right Rear
Camber -1.4
Toe .07
Acceptable Range REVISED
Left Front
Camber -.60 to +.40 (-.10 preferred)
Caster +8.4 to +10.4 (+10.30 preferred)
(Front Total Toe range is 0.0 to +.40 w/maximum side to side distance of 0.0 to +.06 (0.0 preferred)
(Front Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.25 to +1.0 .30 is preferred)
(Front Caster Maximum side to side difference -1.6 to -.4 -1.0 is preferred)
Right Front
Camber -.70 to +.30 (-.20 preferred)
Caster +9.4 to +11.4 (+11.10 preferred)
(Front Total Toe range is 0.0 to +.40 w/maximum side to side distance of 0.0 to +.06 (0.0 preferred)
(Front Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.25 to +1.0 .30 is preferred)
(Front Caster Maximum side to side difference -1.6 to -.4 -1.0 is preferred)
Left Rear
Camber-.75 (-1.25 to -.25)
Total Toe +.17 (+.02 to +..32)
(Rear Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.80 to + .80)
Right Rear
Camber-.75 (-1.25 to -.25)
Total Toe +.03 (-.12 to +.18)
(Rear Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.80 to + .80)
In speaking with the technician, I found out some interesting things. He checked the TSB’s including the engine cradle issue causing right pull, which has not been an issue with Dirty Girl.
As for the specs from Dodge, they have a whole sheet stating what to adjust and to which measurement, interesting part is that the Magnum does not have a place where one can adjust castor or camber. I know there is an aftermarket camber kit for the car, but that is neither here no there.
Due to the Eibach 2” drop race springs it is throwing the settings off a bit and the tech could not get her into preferred tolerances. What affect this will have? I do not know… It looks like I am running more camber so I am assuming I will get more tire wear on the inside… Seems to be great for turning though.
I would prefer to run less camber and more caster to keep the tires flatter on the ground when going straight.
She drives straight and true with no pull. Taking my hands off the wheel she simply goes dead straight with no input from the steering wheel.
Please note, the Left Front Camber number decreases when the driver gets in due to weight which explains the unloaded value of -.08 verses the right hand side of -1.4. The technician said this was normal and sees it on most cars especially newer ones.
I am still concerned however, even if only by tenths of degrees that there is such a huge difference from left to right, both in the front and in the rear.
Actual Prior
Left Front
Camber -.8
Caster 11.1
Toe .40
Right Front
Camber -1.4
Caster 11.3
Toe .43
Left Rear
Camber -1.0
Toe .07
Right Rear
Camber -1.4
Toe -.05
Actual After Alignment:
Left Front
Camber -.7
Caster 11.1
Toe .01
Right Front
Camber -1.3
Caster 11.3
Toe 0
Left Rear
Camber -1.0
Toe .06
Right Rear
Camber -1.4
Toe .07
Acceptable Range REVISED
Left Front
Camber -.60 to +.40 (-.10 preferred)
Caster +8.4 to +10.4 (+10.30 preferred)
(Front Total Toe range is 0.0 to +.40 w/maximum side to side distance of 0.0 to +.06 (0.0 preferred)
(Front Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.25 to +1.0 .30 is preferred)
(Front Caster Maximum side to side difference -1.6 to -.4 -1.0 is preferred)
Right Front
Camber -.70 to +.30 (-.20 preferred)
Caster +9.4 to +11.4 (+11.10 preferred)
(Front Total Toe range is 0.0 to +.40 w/maximum side to side distance of 0.0 to +.06 (0.0 preferred)
(Front Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.25 to +1.0 .30 is preferred)
(Front Caster Maximum side to side difference -1.6 to -.4 -1.0 is preferred)
Left Rear
Camber-.75 (-1.25 to -.25)
Total Toe +.17 (+.02 to +..32)
(Rear Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.80 to + .80)
Right Rear
Camber-.75 (-1.25 to -.25)
Total Toe +.03 (-.12 to +.18)
(Rear Cross Camber Maximum side to side difference -.80 to + .80)