**Anyone Running E85?**

[junior666]

Looking for advise on a flex fuel conversion. Any feedback appreciated!

[CT-MSRT]

oh goodness, now he wants to run on corn and make another 75hp out of that beast. damn thing will be running on nitro by spring.

[Redfox0099]

You can get an E85 monitor from Zeitronix, I am a dealer for them if you want some more information.

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[junior666]

You can get an E85 monitor from Zeitronix, I am a dealer for them if you want some more information.

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Please send me whatever info you can. My email is
hemi6666@verizon.net

[junior666]

:racing:oh goodness, now he wants to run on corn and make another 75hp out of that beast. damn thing will be running on nitro by spring.

Your too funny!!! lmfao
:racing:

[junior666]

Bump for info

[Redfox0099]

Here is a link to the page, let me know if you want to get one and I will get it to you below cost. (Got to look out for my fellow SRT Jeep owners) :)

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/ECA/ECA.htm

[junior666]

Here is a link to the page, let me know if you want to get one and I will get it to you below cost. (Got to look out for my fellow SRT Jeep owners) :)

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/ECA/ECA.htm

Thanks for the link, but I am looking for a Flex fuel conversion kit. I think what this is to monitor a system that I dont have yet. If you know of any let me know. Thanks

[junior666]

bump for info

[GasGunR]

Flex Fuel U.S. is working on becoming a supporting vendor here. http://flexfuelus.com/ His screen name is FFcharger.

[Hemi31]

Chris PM Lafrad.He was running E85 on his Charger.

[GasGunR]

His is just a tune for e-85... not a true flex system.

Chris PM Lafrad.He was running E85 on his Charger.

[hemidup]

I run E85 all the time now. I don't know how you could convert to a flex fuel without having 2 different tunes. The stock pcm will do whatever it has to, to maintane 14.7 a/f's in closed loop. Even with E85.

[junior666]

I run E85 all the time now. I don't know how you could convert to a flex fuel without having 2 different tunes. The stock pcm will do whatever it has to, to maintane 14.7 a/f's in closed loop. Even with E85.


Are you saying you just put the gas in or did you blend it in slowly?

[GasGunR]

I run E85 all the time now. I don't know how you could convert to a flex fuel without having 2 different tunes. The stock pcm will do whatever it has to, to maintane 14.7 a/f's in closed loop. Even with E85.www.flexfuelus.com is how

Are you saying you just put the gas in or did you blend it in slowly? No he has a tune for gas and a defferent tune for e-85

[hemidup]

Are you saying you just put the gas in or did you blend it in slowly?

I run straight E85 with with "goovy grape" smelling top end lube additive.

[junior666]

I run straight E85 with with "goovy grape" smelling top end lube additive.

Could you be a little more specific?

[AWD_Gabe]

It is under my impression that in order to run E85, the vehicle needs to have upgraded fuel lines and pump/injectors, as the E85 is more corrosive than gasoline.


I've heard of kits sold on the internet, but I never plan on looking into one.

[gfr-300SRT8]

I run e20 in mine (95 octane).

[ZMagnum]

The "E" stands for Ethanol. That's the same as what you drink to get drunk. Not more corrosive than gasoline. If it was your insides would be toast.

[Hemi RT]

oh goodness, now he wants to run on corn and make another 75hp out of that beast. damn thing will be running on nitro by spring.

No actually he wants to run on grain - E85 - ethanol is made from grains and Methanol is made from corn

[ZMagnum]

No actually he wants to run on grain - E85 - ethanol is made from grains and Methanol is made from corn

Huh? It's Ethanol you get from corn and grain.

[junior666]

morning bump for info

[CT-MSRT]

No actually he wants to run on grain - E85 - ethanol is made from grains and Methanol is made from corn

since someone decided to take a ride on the FAILboat last night, i figure i'd cite some info.
"In the United States, most ethanol is currently made from corn"
From the EPA article E85 and Flex Fuel Vehicles (http://www.epa.gov/smartway/growandgo/documents/factsheet-e85.htm)
There are of course other ingredients in this blend and other ways to make it but here in the USA we base it from corn and corn byproduct.

To be helpful towards the OP. E-85 isn't really corrosive, it just has the ability to dry out and crack the fuel lines and plastics/rubbers that are not made for E85 use causing them to fail. The octane is much higher but since the fuel has less potential energy you have to burn more of it so your mpg's will drop off a cliff for how you intend to use it. Fuel pumps and injectors for use with E85 have to really move some big volume when dealing with a high HP motor. You definitely would need some work done to convert it and you would have to run 2 completely different tunes to realize the potential. The tune for E85 would annihilate your motor if you tried the same timing and fuel with normal pump gas. From what i have seen you'd only switch to E85 to extract the upper abilities of it to produce HP so you would be using some very aggressive tuning to get those numbers.

[CT-MSRT]

another article relating to the parts and technology involved.

E-85 ethanol is used in engines modified to accept higher concentrations of ethanol. Such flexible-fuel engines are designed to run on any mixture of gasoline or ethanol with up to 85% ethanol by volume. The primary differences from non-FFVs is the elimination of bare magnesium, aluminum, and rubber parts in the fuel system, the use of fuel pumps capable of operating with electrically conductive (ethanol) instead of non-conducting dielectric (gasoline) fuel, specially-coated wear-resistant engine parts, fuel injection control systems having a wider range of pulse widths (for injecting approximately 60% more fuel), the selection of stainless steel fuel lines (sometimes lined with plastic), the selection of stainless steel fuel tanks in place of terne fuel tanks, and, in some cases, the use of acid-neutralizing motor oil. For vehicles with fuel-tank mounted fuel pumps, additional differences to prevent arcing, as well as flame arrestors positioned in the tank's fill pipe, are also sometimes used.

[junior666]

Thanks Mike, hey I changed my pads all by myself!

[lafrad]

my "flex fuel" stuff involves having 2 tunes in the predator, and running the tank until the light goes on between fill-ups... pick the right tune after the pump clicks off.

I was never able to get the flex fuel stuff working the way I was expecting it to, in the ECM... (to automatically change between the gas and alcohol tunes) then again, i didn't have much time to work on that aspect of the tuning before some things in life got in the way...

I had many many many full tanks of E85 through the charger, and there was ZERO problems related to it.

[junior666]

Thanks for the input, definetely not diving into this without Company support and OK. Not going to risk any warranty issues. I just know this beast loves octane!!

[hemidup]

For my E85 change over, I knew I needed more volume so I intalled two seperate intank Walbro pumps with two -6 lines merging into a Y block and then run a single -8 to the regulator, then two -6 lines, one to each Aeromotive fuel rail and crossover with a single -8 return line back to the tank. I also run 66 psi injectors @ 58 psi fuel pressure. Since E85 lacks some of the lubrication abilities of gasoline, I also add in an aftermarket top end lube which helps to prevent cylinder wash-down. 16 oz will treat 55 gal and cost $8.50 a bottle. E85 also runs very cool. It takes along time just to bring my engine up to temp with a 180 t-state so I'll be installing a 190 to see if it will help.

[Batman]

The "E" stands for Ethanol. That's the same as what you drink to get drunk. Not more corrosive than gasoline. If it was your insides would be toast.

That's the reason why they mix Ethanol with gasoline. If not, folks would drink right from the tap.

[CT-MSRT]

Thanks for the input, definetely not diving into this without Company support and OK. Not going to risk any warranty issues. I just know this beast loves octane!!

Don't you go hurting that beautiful 440. leave it on gas. hell, add some laughing gas while your at it! easy to tune for that stuff at least.

[ZMagnum]

That's the reason why they mix Ethanol with gasoline. If not, folks would drink right from the tap.

I would.