View Full Version : Please tell me I'm not the only one who drove somewhere without the key..
srt8_hmi
08-13-2009, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I went to the carwash and realized I didn't have my FOB. How is this even possible! Try explaining this to the person you ask to bring the FOB to you! Yes I'm a jackass.
madeulooq
08-13-2009, 10:43 PM
lol.. how is this possible? How'd the car get in drive?
fargo59
08-13-2009, 10:47 PM
keyless go. if the fobik is in range when you hit start, but you leave it somewhere (your coat on a chair beside your car. or in a car beside yours.) then it wont start later.
madeulooq
08-13-2009, 10:49 PM
Oh I seeee
Super T
08-13-2009, 11:29 PM
Isn't it supposed to kill the engine when the fob gets out of range???
H3733
08-14-2009, 12:17 AM
^^^i thought it did that too. Can you imagine after a road trip? lol
TheBeastMaster
08-14-2009, 12:35 AM
This is exactly why I hate Start Buttons! I'm so glad my car does not have one. A lot of people called me crazy, but here you go. PROOF! I'm not sure about the older cars w/this feature, but I too thought that the engine was supposed to shut-off if the key got to far away. Either there's a glitch w/your car requiring service, or it's not going to shut-off and my point has been proven. My dad just bought a Mazda 6 w/a Start button, and he too told me it's supposed to shut-off. He then proceeded to try and demonstrate. He walked at least 100 feet, and the car stayed on! My main concern is valet parking. Even if the car shuts off, the distance required could have the valet down a hill somewhere, and you in the restaurant. At the least, it's an inconvience as the valet will have to retrieve the key. At the most, the car shuts off, the steering wheel locks up, and your car crashes b/c of it. No thank you. Give me an old fashioned ignition key any day.
Mik3y
08-14-2009, 12:37 AM
This is exactly why I hate Start Buttons! I'm so glad my car does not have one. A lot of people called me crazy, but here you go. PROOF! I'm not sure about the older cars w/this feature, but I too thought that the engine was supposed to shut-off if the key got to far away. Either there's a glitch w/your car requiring service, or it's not going to shut-off and my point has been proven. My dad just bought a Mazda 6 w/a Start button, and he too told me it's supposed to shut-off. He then proceeded to try and demonstrate. He walked at least 100 feet, and the car stayed on! My main concern is valet parking. Even if the car shuts off, the distance required could have the valet down a hill somewhere, and you in the restaurant. At the least, it's an inconvience as the valet will have to retrieve the key. At the most, the car shuts off, the steering wheel locks up, and your car crashes b/c of it. No thank you. Give me an old fashioned ignition key any day.
Or your car is parked close enough to the where they keep the keys and someone breaks, turns it on with no problems. I just made that up so not sure if its possible lol
srt8_hmi
08-14-2009, 06:10 AM
Or your car is parked close enough to the where they keep the keys and someone breaks, turns it on with no problems. I just made that up so not sure if its possible lol
I can't see that being a problem. Half the time it doesn't start when I'm sitting in the damned thing with the FOB. Lol
OnTheRock'08
08-14-2009, 12:14 PM
This is exactly why I hate Start Buttons! I'm so glad my car does not have one. A lot of people called me crazy, but here you go. PROOF! I'm not sure about the older cars w/this feature, but I too thought that the engine was supposed to shut-off if the key got to far away. Either there's a glitch w/your car requiring service, or it's not going to shut-off and my point has been proven. My dad just bought a Mazda 6 w/a Start button, and he too told me it's supposed to shut-off. He then proceeded to try and demonstrate. He walked at least 100 feet, and the car stayed on! My main concern is valet parking. Even if the car shuts off, the distance required could have the valet down a hill somewhere, and you in the restaurant. At the least, it's an inconvience as the valet will have to retrieve the key. At the most, the car shuts off, the steering wheel locks up, and your car crashes b/c of it. No thank you. Give me an old fashioned ignition key any day.
Who uses valet parking ???
fargo59
08-14-2009, 12:17 PM
actually, you could end up doing this with an older LX too if the key would come out after starting. ive done this with other models before. driven it somewhere without a key in the ignition. you need the key only for the first 5-10 seconds of run time. after that, it doesnt matter.
TheBeastMaster
08-14-2009, 02:04 PM
Who uses valet parking ???
Sure as hel! ain't me, you can have my keys when you pry them out of my cold dead hands. I finally have a car nice enough to valet(I once drove my stripper model Toyota to a 5 star restaurant . I was beyond embarrassed) and I won't ever take it to a valet place anyways. But some people might, you never know.
joeb1
08-15-2009, 06:17 PM
This is exactly why I hate Start Buttons! I'm so glad my car does not have one. A lot of people called me crazy, but here you go. PROOF! I'm not sure about the older cars w/this feature, but I too thought that the engine was supposed to shut-off if the key got to far away. Either there's a glitch w/your car requiring service, or it's not going to shut-off and my point has been proven. At the most, the car shuts off, the steering wheel locks up, and your car crashes b/c of it. No thank you. Give me an old fashioned ignition key any day.
LX/LC steering wheels don't lock. :panic:
:racing:
mcnairrr
08-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Kind of scary if you ask me....if you are able to start with out the key...whats to stop some else....like at a gas station....
TheBeastMaster
08-16-2009, 01:36 AM
LX/LC steering wheels don't lock. :panic:
:racing:
Ok fine, but if the engine shuts off you'll lose the power steering. Try steering a 2 ton car w/o power steering, and you're just as likely to crash.
Shelby
08-16-2009, 12:18 PM
You also only get one or two brake hits before you are braking a tank without power brakes.....these things are very heavy.
I shut the engine off during a traffic jam (parking lot) on a slight down hill. Let off the brake and coast 6 feet, stop. Let off, coast 10 feet, stop. Let off, coast 10 feet, no power brakes. It was a great fuel saving idea for traveling 3 miles in 54 minutes. Stopping it without power brakes is not fun.
Note: If your engine dies at any speed you really want to consider the steering and braking problems and get it stopped very quickly.
Speedy
08-16-2009, 02:26 PM
You also only get one or two brake hits before you are braking a tank without power brakes.....these things are very heavy.
I shut the engine off during a traffic jam (parking lot) on a slight down hill. Let off the brake and coast 6 feet, stop. Let off, coast 10 feet, stop. Let off, coast 10 feet, no power brakes. It was a great fuel saving idea for traveling 3 miles in 54 minutes. Stopping it without power brakes is not fun.
Note: If your engine dies at any speed you really want to consider the steering and braking problems and get it stopped very quickly.
If your engine dies at any speed put it in neutral and restart ASAP. It will take longer to stop with the engine off than it will to restart.
Unfortunately you cannot restart in Drive.
Tbird100636
08-16-2009, 06:52 PM
actually, you could end up doing this with an older LX too if the key would come out after starting. ive done this with other models before. driven it somewhere without a key in the ignition. you need the key only for the first 5-10 seconds of run time. after that, it doesnt matter.
And on FOBIK cars without Keyless Go once the WIN recognizes a valid key when you just turn to the ACC position that's it. The start authorization has already been approved. You don't even need the FOBIK after that. As long as you don't shut the Ignition completely off (Lock position) you can restart the car without the FOBIK using your finger.
Try it. Hold a FOBIK very close to the WIN while inserting your index finger into the KEY slot, depressing the key in ignition button, then twist your finger to the ACC position. As long as you don't get a "WRONG KEY" or "BAD KEY' warning you've already got a start authorization. Throw away the key and just turn the key to run then start and release. The car will continue to run, then shut it off to the accessory position, then turn it back to on and restart the vehicle. Works every time. Keyless Go WIN's have a little door that blocks your finger from turning the WIN. I hope they fix this loophole.
fargo59
08-16-2009, 07:17 PM
yup, done that before. all the car needs is to see the key for about 5 seconds.
Shelby
08-16-2009, 08:04 PM
If your engine dies at any speed put it in neutral and restart ASAP. It will take longer to stop with the engine off than it will to restart.
Unfortunately you cannot restart in Drive.
Excellent advice. If it fails to start for some reason, including whatever killed it, remember steering and stopping will be no fun at all.
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