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UniversalAirSuspension
08-21-2008, 02:31 PM
We have finished up the testing on our Koni Sport Dampers with both OEM coil springs and Eibach lowering Coil springs and its is a VERY HUGE improvement over the stock shocks.

These are not available anywhere else and Koni is not planning on producing this line and releasing out to the public.

These feature a slightly shorter compressed height so you won't be damaging them by running the lowering coil spring along with fully adjustable rebound damping to help smooth out that ride.

We are offering them to the forum members at $800 shipped inside the U.S

https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/konistrut.jpg


Here is FAQ on Koni


Q: What is the difference between KONI Special (red) and KONI Sport (yellow)?

A: The KONI Special (red) has been engineered to maximize the ride comfort with good handling performance for each vehicle (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/#) application. The KONI Sport (yellow) typically starts at a higher initial valving baseline to give a sportier feel and work on vehicles with higher performance parts. In some instances, KONI will only offer a Special or Sport valving and not both. Some modern cars (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/#) come from the factory with higher tech suspension systems and wheel/tire packages so they would move directly into the Sport range, however they are still valved to give a comfortable ride with very good handling capabilities.


Q: How much stiffer are KONIs than factory shocks?

A: This is a difficult question to answer because every KONI application is developed for that specific vehicle to get the best handling characteristics. In general, most factory shocks are under damped for optimized handling so KONI engineers select firmer valvings. Unfortunately factory shocks are generally chosen for financial reasons rather than performance so lower technology, cheaper shocks are standard. In some instances, a factory shock may have good characteristics in some parts of the working range but need some help in other parts and there are even a few instances where the KONI engineers found better handling by softening the factory units.


Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks?

A: There is no single best adjustment setting for your KONIs because every driver has different preferences for comfort, performance, performance modifications and roads to drive on. For most vehicles, we suggest that new KONIs be installed in the full soft position. (the standard setting right out of the box) to take advantage of the balance of ride comfort and handling designed by the KONI ride development engineers. If the car has performance upgrades (springs, wheel/tire packages, etc.) or the driver wants the car a bit more aggressive, most people find the optimum setting in the 1/2 to one full turn from the full soft range. Over the extended life of the damper or if the driver wants a specific firm handling characteristic, the dampers can be adjusted up higher. Very rarely will KONI ever need to be adjusted to the full firm setting.
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Q: What are the best springs to match my KONIs.

A: One of the great advantages of KONI adjustable shocks is that there is no specific spring for matching optimum performance. Instead you can adjust your KONIs to match your springs. Most performance springs have a higher spring rate than the vehicle's original springs. Since the shock controls the motion of the spring, increased spring rates require more rebound damping for control and that is one of the reasons why KONIs are rebound adjustable (and some are double adjustable). Using higher rate springs with OE or soft shocks will very quickly overcome and wear out the shocks. The KONI adjustment range is typically about 100% (twice as firm at the full firm settings at the full soft setting) to allow for proper damping of OE springs and high rate performance springs.


Q: How far can I safely lower my car?

A:KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.


Q: KONI makes some shocks that are not gas shocks. Why?

A: There are basically three types of shock absorber designs: mono-tube high pressure gas, twin-tube low pressure gas and twin tube hydraulic (non-gas). Each of these designs has a certain ride and performance characteristics that can enhance the performance of a vehicle and KONI is the only company that makes three designs. KONI ride development engineers evaluate each new vehicle and can decide which shock [URL="http://www.300cforums.com/forums/#"]design (http://www.koni-na.com/faq.cfm#top#top) would best apply to that vehicle. Some cars respond to mono-tubes, some like gas pressurized and others don't. Most shock companies utilize only one or two of these style because it is less expensive for manufacturing but are therefore limited in design capability and function.


Q: I want to lower my car with a coil-over sleeve kit. How do I setup my vehicle withKONIs and coil-over sleeves?

A: There are many coil-over sleeve systems on the market but the key is to get ones that will fit the KONI damper properly. Most of these are built to fit over a large number of aftermarket shock absorber brands but this means many will not really fit well. KONI is unique in that some applications feature an adjustable spring seat mounted on a circlip on the shock body. This circlip design is extremely strong when it is loaded properly and the circlip is captured so that it cannot be forced open. However if the mounting on the circlip is unevenly loaded or not properly captured allowing the circlip to increase in diameter from load or impact, you have a potentially dangerous situation where damage could occur. With proper installation and loading, the circlip system allows for great strength and ride height adjustability at the same time. Additionally, when selecting and installing your coil-over system, care should be taken to avoid allowing the springs to coil bind (compressing the spring down to a solid state) during usage as this can risk bottoming and damage. A proper length bump rubber should be used to keep the spring from coil binding and the shocks from bottoming internally. You should contact the dealer (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/#) or the manufacture of the coil-over system and get any necessary adapter rings necessary to mount the sleeve system to the KONI.

Q: Why are some KONI shocks not externally adjustable?

A: Whenever possible, we try to have the application be externally adjustable so that they can be easily adjusted on the car. In some cases this is not possible due to design constraints imposed by the vehicle. Some cars have no way to physically access an adjuster on the car or have mounts that prohibit an adjustable shock. In these cases, the shocks are still adjustable but must be removed from the car to do so.


Q: What's the difference between the standardKONI shocks and those in the Threaded Suspension Kits and the RSK kits?

A:The dampers in Threaded Suspension Kits are based on KONI Sport shocks but have been made specifically for the elements of the kits. Depending on the applications, some have different maximum or minimum lengths and valvings to specifically match the springs and lowering goals of the kits. Most are plated and threaded bodies and some are tight steel sleeves on yellow painted shock bodies. The dampers in the RSK kits are based on the red painted KONI Special shocks but they have been specifically valved to work with the kit springs. Additionally they have multiple spring perch grooves in them so the height of the car can be adjusted at the time of installation.


Q: What is the KONI warranty? How do I go about getting replacements?

A: The KONI warranty is a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser against defects in materials and workmanship for as long as you own that car registered for street use. The warranty does not cover damage to the parts caused by misuse, misapplication, installation, motorsports, etc. The warranty does not include mounting bushings. If you determine you have a defective damper you can either contact the company which you purchased the unit(s) from or contact KONI North America directly at warranty@koni-na.com (warranty@koni-na.com) or 859-586-4100. To process your warranty, we will require a copy of the purchase receipt and a vehicle registration. We will generate a return goods authorization (RGA) and can replace the dampers in advance at your discretion. For more specific information about the warranty see our warranty form (http://www.koni-na.com/warrantyform.pdf).

4DRHTRD
08-21-2008, 02:43 PM
Will these work on Novimat cars and can you easily adjust these while on the car?
Can you also purchase the rears separately?

UniversalAirSuspension
08-21-2008, 02:47 PM
Will these work on Novimat cars and can you easily adjust these while on the car?
Can you also purchase the rears separately?

The shocks will work on the Self Leveling cars, however you would want to change coils out at the same time because by design the Nivo shock is designed to hold some of the weight.

Unfortunally they are only sold as a set.

BTW, I have used the OEM SRT8 shock (Bilstien) before and the Koni is hands down alot nicer.

Hemi Mag
08-21-2008, 06:12 PM
This was an awesome mod on my 98 Neon, me thinks I'll have to work some OT to get the scratch together!

The fronts are a piece of cake to adjust how easy/hard is it to adjust the rears? Do they have to be removed to adjust them?

AC

UniversalAirSuspension
08-21-2008, 06:39 PM
This was an awesome mod on my 98 Neon, me thinks I'll have to work some OT to get the scratch together!

The fronts are a piece of cake to adjust how easy/hard is it to adjust the rears? Do they have to be removed to adjust them?

AC

Unfortunally the rears are a little bit of a pain to adjust. You will have to compress the shock down and turn the shaft inside the body to adjust it. Now with mine i have just pulled out the bottom bolt, pushed them up and adjusted it that way. Or you can pull the shock completely out and turn them that way. It does take some time the first time you install them, but after you get them where you like it, you don't have to keep messing with them.

fireman2118
08-21-2008, 08:50 PM
How much better are they than Eibachs Pro Dampers? $800.00 is a lot for dampers when you can get Eibachs for $400.00

UniversalAirSuspension
08-21-2008, 08:53 PM
How much better are they than Eibachs Pro Dampers? $800.00 is a lot for dampers when you can get Eibachs for $400.00

They are more expensive then the Eibach's, but they are adjustable where the eibach's are not.

Its like the difference between the KW V1 and V2. One is adjustable...

fireman2118
08-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the info.

UniversalAirSuspension
08-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the info.


Your welcome!

BLACKHEMIMAG
08-21-2008, 11:14 PM
I have these on my car with UAS air bags....HUGH difference! They took alot of the irritating bounce out and it corners even harder. The only problem with them is they made me realize how much I want to keep modding with my suspension.lol The rears aren't that difficult to adjust because they come off and go on easily. One thing I did notice that after reading this makes me worry is that when lowered it sits even lower than before, but it looks bad a**.

gameover
08-21-2008, 11:51 PM
^^^ Do you have any pics of your car laid out? I will be in the market for some new shocks in a few months. Need to put in more hours at work.

GROUNDED
08-22-2008, 08:46 AM
Just look at my sig, thats how low I sit on konis.

UniversalAirSuspension
08-22-2008, 01:22 PM
^^^ Do you have any pics of your car laid out? I will be in the market for some new shocks in a few months. Need to put in more hours at work.

Here is some pics of a Charger Layed out on our bag system with the Koni Shocks and the 30 series tires.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/TheBeej418/Charger/IMG_0335.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/TheBeej418/Charger/IMG_0361.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/TheBeej418/Charger/IMG_0349.jpg

BLACKHEMIMAG
08-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Heres one

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/BLACKHEMIMAG/100_1709.jpg