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HemiVCT
08-18-2008, 07:25 AM
Not good numbers for those wanting to buy this car for performance. My best on my '09 Charger R&T was 5.4 secs. That was with slight wheelspin at the start.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=130808#2

kevin2323
08-18-2008, 07:53 AM
lol edmunds is bias as hell. They rated the auto at 5.5 that is ludacris. The auto goes 0-60 in 4.9 and with a guy who nows how to drive these cars it will do 4.7 with the manual. wait for car and driver to come out, they are the best. It is a 6 speed tremec that time is impossible unless you cannot drive a stick.

HemiVCT
08-18-2008, 08:16 AM
What's odd is why 2nd gear can't go up to or past 60. My 2nd gear can go to 75-80mph.

hifees
08-18-2008, 08:46 AM
Who launches like that? Why not just red line it an dump it if thats how your going to launch. Geeeesh................

adaptabl
08-18-2008, 11:01 AM
What's odd is why 2nd gear can't go up to or past 60. My 2nd gear can go to 75-80mph.

The Challenger has a different gear(shorter) that may require an additional shift. Those time look realistic for a 3700 pound car on Goodyear RSA street tires.

stevesrt8
08-18-2008, 01:52 PM
They wish it only weighed 3700 pounds!

And a sub 5 second time 0-60 is a certainty with a decent driver!

Hemi31
08-18-2008, 01:57 PM
They wish it only weighed 3700 pounds!

And a sub 5 second time 0-60 is a certainty with a decent driver!not a chance with a stock 5.7!

kevin2323
08-18-2008, 10:20 PM
5.1s will be easy with a good driver with the new 5.7 with a stick.

OLJustice
08-19-2008, 02:22 AM
I don't think a stock RT can do a sub 5.0 sec 0-60 unless its a factory freak.

My best 0-60 is 4.9. And thats after a gazillion tries on a mildly modded car. I'm hoping for a sub 13 second 1/4 and sub 4.9 0-60 after my next (and last) set of performance mods.

kevin2323
08-19-2008, 02:32 AM
wat do you have on yours?

OLJustice
08-19-2008, 02:37 AM
sidewinder cam, dynatech longtube headers w/highflow cats, afe stage2 cai, custom tune.

My best 1/4 is 13.3 and im @ 350rwhp/380ftlb

kevin2323
08-19-2008, 04:25 AM
i see

Plumcrazy1210
08-19-2008, 07:57 AM
times for auto or manuel are very slow 5.9 with manuel!!!!!!! G8 gt kicks the crap out of that time and stang, that's just not quick for today come on mopar !!! We need better times from r/t to srt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Period!!!!!!!!!!!

stevesrt8
08-19-2008, 08:59 AM
not a chance with a stock 5.7!

With the VVT Hemi the torque is there, it's all up to the driver. If you're willing to brutalize the clutch and you know how to drive, it's possible.

MikeEast
08-19-2008, 10:29 AM
I think it would be pretty silly if 0-60 times were the deciding factor on buying a car...

Any automatic will give you better times than a stick - it's way better at shifting than you are...

Mike

Hemi31
08-19-2008, 10:36 AM
With the VVT Hemi the torque is there, it's all up to the driver. If you're willing to brutalize the clutch and you know how to drive, it's possible.Not even close.......and those who think they are hitting 0-60 in the 4's with a stock motored 5.7 better think again.....don't believe everything the silly dash timer tells you.......SRT's are barely in the 4's ,stock most are in the low 5's.....a 5.7 is closer to the mid to high 5's.

kevin2323
08-19-2008, 10:38 AM
that is the automatic 5.7 of old.. the new manual 5.7 with 375-380 horses and more torque is likely in the mid to LOW 5s.

Ruff n Tuff RT
08-19-2008, 12:15 PM
that damn engine probably not even broke in properly....and it looked like some sorry azz launches

Redfox0099
08-19-2008, 12:26 PM
A 5.7L that does high 13s/low 14s in the 1/4 a low 6 high 5 second 0-60 sounds right.

BTW yall are bickering over less than a second in an article...??

Joking, don't hate....btw my best 0-60 on DRs was a 3.2 second at the track....woopy doo.

CHARGERSHED
08-19-2008, 12:37 PM
My R/T Charger ran a 13.82 at Firebird raceway in Feb. of this year. A.D. was around 2200 ft. and temps were in the low 70's. my only mods were a cat back exh., MOPAR CAI, 180 t-stat and a cop car oil cooler. my 0-60 was 5.02 on a 2.12 60' time... My guess would be a manual Challenger with about 3500 miles or more, should be able to shave at least a 10th off of that 0-60 and maintain that for the 1/4... maybe shave another tenth if run at sea level... My fearless prediction is that C&D will get a R/T manual in the high 4's with a mid 13 1/4 when they test a production version...

kevin2323
08-19-2008, 12:52 PM
A 5.7L that does high 13s/low 14s in the 1/4 a low 6 high 5 second 0-60 sounds right.

BTW yall are bickering over less than a second in an article...??

Joking, don't hate....btw my best 0-60 on DRs was a 3.2 second at the track....woopy doo.
pics or didnt happen lol.

OLJustice
08-19-2008, 12:59 PM
pics or didnt happen lol.


[omnious horror movie sound] dum dum dum..... :popcorn:

Redfox0099
08-19-2008, 01:01 PM
Um ok.

done
08-19-2008, 01:10 PM
pics or didnt happen lol.

If you have seen his car launch (I have) you could not be a doubter.

kevin2323
08-19-2008, 01:30 PM
I was kidding geez relax. It is kind of obvious with the stroker ect ect. :(

Hemi31
08-19-2008, 01:33 PM
My R/T Charger ran a 13.82 at Firebird raceway in Feb. of this year. A.D. was around 2200 ft. and temps were in the low 70's. my only mods were a cat back exh., MOPAR CAI, 180 t-stat and a cop car oil cooler. my 0-60 was 5.02 on a 2.12 60' time... My guess would be a manual Challenger with about 3500 miles or more, should be able to shave at least a 10th off of that 0-60 and maintain that for the 1/4... maybe shave another tenth if run at sea level... My fearless prediction is that C&D will get a R/T manual in the high 4's with a mid 13 1/4 when they test a production version...And you recorded the 0-60 with what?With a 2.12 60' there is no freaking way in hell you pulled 5.02 0-60.

CHARGERSHED
08-19-2008, 06:13 PM
^^^^^ I believe it was on the time slip, but since I don't have that in front of me here at work, I am recalling it from memory... it was and still is the fastest run I have ever had, about 2 tenths quicker than my previous best. In fact I had teched to a 14 pass and was done after that run because I didn't have a helmet... so for now I will defer to you, since you seem to be the expert on all things 0-60...

aries4life
08-19-2008, 06:30 PM
Rofl!

Ya, Erik, you didn't know I pull 4.5 second 0-60s on the street? :roll:

I seriously doubt a 2.12 60 foot with a 13.8 1/4 nets a 5.0 0-60. What method did you use that pooped out that number?

Hemi31
08-19-2008, 06:34 PM
^^^^^ I believe it was on the time slip, but since I don't have that in front of me here at work, I am recalling it from memory... it was and still is the fastest run I have ever had, about 2 tenths quicker than my previous best. In fact I had teched to a 14 pass and was done after that run because I didn't have a helmet... so for now I will defer to you, since you seem to be the expert on all things 0-60...Dude....it's not possible with a 2.19 60' time....and I really don't care that you ran 2 tenths quicker than a 14 sec run.......there is no way a STOCK MOTOR 5.7 is running a 5.0 0-60.........I don't need to be an expert....even though I know just a weeeee little bit about these cars:doh:

GROUNDED
08-19-2008, 07:24 PM
I see you, Hi hater.

Hemi31
08-19-2008, 07:28 PM
I see you, Hi hater.Why cause I can do simple math?Whatever.

nhdave
08-19-2008, 07:45 PM
I see you, Hi hater.

I don't see him as a hater.


A hater would laugh at the fact you have a V6 and have no chance of seeing a 5.* anything 60'. :mrgreen:

thematrixhasu
08-21-2008, 08:52 PM
Anyone who goes by edmunds numbers is a dumb A$$ look at the launches and look at edmunds track record a stock charger with the old 5.7 runs 5.5-5.7 so you telling me add 35 horse power and 20 lbs of torque with no change in weight runs slower yea im sorry im the dumb A$$ for reading that article and i dont even want a challenger. But i am waiting for the top-secret 2010 Chrysler 300C (might change letter though) with the two mode hybrid and 400hp

GROUNDED
04-01-2009, 06:48 PM
Lol wow old ass thread but I happened to read that one of you guys beaned me for my comment. I was just kidding and actually never read the topic so I have no idea what was said before my post. :) If you guys got hard feelings im sry.

srt8_hmi
04-01-2009, 07:17 PM
So is anyone changing their story? Wasn't there some members in here that ran 13.3's and 13.4's with a barely broken in R/T Chally? All I know is that if you buy a 6.1 and mod it then it will run like a motha! I know mine is fast enough to get my ass a ticket!

Hemi31
04-01-2009, 07:20 PM
So is anyone changing their story? Wasn't there some members in here that ran 13.3's and 13.4's with a barely broken in R/T Chally? All I know is that if you buy a 6.1 and mod it then it will run like a motha! I know mine is fast enough to get my ass a ticket!Nope.......it was a modded with bolt ons.Thats not stock.

srt8_hmi
04-01-2009, 07:26 PM
Nope.......it was a modded with bolt ons.Thats not stock.

Shame on him! I told my brother that his could run mid 13's with a roll out. So realistically what does the 6 speed R/T run in the 1/4? Even high 13's are impressive.

65535
04-02-2009, 12:09 PM
FYI:

The numbers are not so farfetched.

R/T has a 50hp deficit and a 300lb weight disadvantage. It has put up good numbers considering this.

2009 Challenger R/T 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 376 bhp @ 5150 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 410 lb-ft @ 4300 rpm
Curb Weight: 4164 pounds

0-60 time : 5.1 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6 sec @ 106 mph
70-0: 173 ft

2010 Camaro SS 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 426 bhp @ 5900 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 420 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Curb Weight: 3859 pounds

0-60 time : 4.8 sec
1/4 mile: 13.0 sec @ 111 mph
70-0: 161 ft

Hemi31
04-02-2009, 12:16 PM
FYI:

The numbers are not so farfetched.

R/T has a 50hp deficit and a 300lb weight disadvantage. It has put up good numbers considering this.

2009 Challenger R/T 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 376 bhp @ 5150 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 410 lb-ft @ 4300 rpm
Curb Weight: 4164 pounds

0-60 time : 5.1 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6 sec @ 106 mph
70-0: 173 ft

2010 Camaro SS 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 426 bhp @ 5900 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 420 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Curb Weight: 3859 pounds

0-60 time : 4.8 sec
1/4 mile: 13.0 sec @ 111 mph
70-0: 161 ftI still don't buy it bone stock......when and where was the test done and by whom?

MuscleMan305
04-02-2009, 09:23 PM
FYI:

The numbers are not so farfetched.

R/T has a 50hp deficit and a 300lb weight disadvantage. It has put up good numbers considering this.

2009 Challenger R/T 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 376 bhp @ 5150 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 410 lb-ft @ 4300 rpm
Curb Weight: 4164 pounds

0-60 time : 5.1 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6 sec @ 106 mph
70-0: 173 ft

2010 Camaro SS 6-speed
Power (SAE net): 426 bhp @ 5900 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 420 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Curb Weight: 3859 pounds

0-60 time : 4.8 sec
1/4 mile: 13.0 sec @ 111 mph
70-0: 161 ft

This means nothing, fact still remains LS engines are way more tuner friendly, add a few bolt ons to the camaro and that thing will probably run even with a stroked srt on a bad day given the weight advantage. Chrysler Fiat needs to let the cat out of the bag so that the diablo guys can really show the world what this modern hemi is really capable of. With them on the ropes and almost out for the count, Im surprised they havent done that already since it seems they have nothing to lose and how the camaro is going to have a huge advantage is not only weight/Hp but price as well. No wonder Ford is doing the best out of the big 3, they know how to take advantage and sell to the tuner crowd, chrysler hasnt been able to do this yet because theyr too chickens%&@ and afraid the warranty nightmare that might ensue.

srt8_hmi
04-06-2009, 07:56 AM
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0809_2009_dodge_challenger_testing/2009_dodge_challenger_rt.html
2009 DODGE CHALLENGER R/T Base price $29,995 Price as tested $39,055 Vehicle layout Front-engine, RWD, 5-pass, 2-door, coupe Engine 5.7L/376-hp/410-lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8 Transmission 6-speed manual Curb weight (f/r dist) 4154 lb (53/47%) Wheelbase 116.0 in Length x width x height 197.7 x 75.7 x 57.1 in
0-60 mph 5.1 sec
Quarter mile 13.6 sec @ 104.9 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 135 ft Lateral acceleration 0.82 g (avg) MT figure eight 27.5 sec @ 0.63 g (avg) EPA city/hwy fuel econ 16 / 25 mpg CO2 emissions 1.02 lb/mile

06SRT300
04-06-2009, 08:44 AM
LS motors arent all there cracked up to be. Been there done that and its a waiste of time and money. I had an LS2 400hp 405tq, manufactuer claim. Mine made a wopping 300 horsepower at the ground, whoa buddy thats nice, not really. Magnaflow catback KN FIPK Diablo. 325 horsepower at the ground. I couldnt tell a difference at all. Waiste of 1200 bucks. Then now the clutch is gone because GM has terrible build quality. Estimated life of a slave cylander on those cars is 35k miles. Thats nice aint it. Good friend of my has 99 Camaro Z28. Made 436 wheel horse 400 torques the same day i got my numbers out of my srt in my sig. He has heads, cam, long tubes, dual 3 inch with flows. Fast intake and throttle body, and has been extensively tuned. Don't get me wrong i like the car but its not as fast as you would think. it gets worse mileage, is incredibly way to loud, vibrates all of the interior panels constantly. He has 315s out back and from the hole to about 100 i got him. Even if he hooks he still can't beat me. These cars are capable of making big numbers but i have never been in one that truly impresses me like the big tank i drive.

TopTrainer
04-06-2009, 10:49 AM
I don't know, I had two LS1 cars ( both '99's ) and with headers, borla cat back and direct flow intake they both put down more than 360rwhp and ran high 12's in the 1/4 @ 110 - 112 mph. I think I spent maybe $1000 in those mods and neither car was tuned. Would have loved to have a Diablo back then.

I definitely think my SRT is faster than those two but I haven't taken it to the track yet. We'll see.

stevesrt8
04-06-2009, 11:05 AM
forget the et, just look at the trap.

it's not even close.

PowerWagon896
04-06-2009, 11:21 AM
I think it would be pretty silly if 0-60 times were the deciding factor on buying a car...

Any automatic will give you better times than a stick - it's way better at shifting than you are...

Mike

Yep!

And you recorded the 0-60 with what?With a 2.12 60' there is no freaking way in hell you pulled 5.02 0-60.

Cripes, my very 1st pass @ Napierville was a 2.009 60' & there was no way my Car would have done a 0-60 5 seconds flat. I think the datalog had me in the 5.2 range not 5.02. That was W/a Superchips 91 octane tune & 160* TSTAT/75-cent fan mod.

That being said, I would think an automatic "09" R/T W/VCT would have a realistic chance @ a 5 flat 0-60, but a manual on street tires? I think a manual on street tires would take one helluva driver to = an automatic on street tires out of the hole.

MGM
04-06-2009, 11:36 AM
Not good numbers for those wanting to buy this car for performance. My best on my '09 Charger R&T was 5.4 secs. That was with slight wheelspin at the start.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=130808#2
Edmunds is not someone I would trust and I think there are much better numbers out there than that. Edmunds needs to stick to Toyota and Honda.