I want power folding mirrors

[orandaberg]

:rock:Hi

I would lito install the power folding mirrors on my 2007 300C any body know the details on doing this DIY or finding some perfect chrome used or new pair
Pierre

[MR. GAMBINO]

Man I've been looking for a pair for my 07 300c to but no luck . I will go to my local dealership tomorrow and ask if I can special order them and let you know. Have you check with your L.D.?:rock:

[300cAMG]

I have tryed for over a year, to get mirrors that power fold-away like the side mirrors on the Mercedes benz. Someone on the Chrysler300/SRT-8forum. had recived a pair from a contact in Europe. Can anyone give the link to this other forum?

[moparknighthawk]

Folding power mirrors= you fold them yourself.

Power folding mirrors=you push a button the the mirrors fold themselves. :racing:

[UK CHRYSLER 300C]

you should already have them on your Euro model,I do,just turn the mirror switch 180 degrees and buzzzzzzz,click they're folded

[saleensean]

i have a set of these on my 300magnum. fits well with my european rear bumper too. i set them up to work by remote control, just push a button on the remote and both mirrors fold in/out. get lots of attention with these.

[hemiwagn]

i have a set of these on my 300magnum. fits well with my european rear bumper too. i set them up to work by remote control, just push a button on the remote and both mirrors fold in/out. get lots of attention with these.

cool. where did you get them -- did you have to buy the parts from overseas?

[UK CHRYSLER 300C]

i have a set of these on my 300magnum. fits well with my european rear bumper too. i set them up to work by remote control, just push a button on the remote and both mirrors fold in/out. get lots of attention with these.
I cant say I've noticed the difference between the euro bumper and the stateside bumper,whats the difference?

Also how did you connect the mirrors so the remote works them,thanks

[Hemi Mag]

The foglights in the rear bumper would be the main difference.

Saleen, do you have a part number for your mirrors? Maybe we can see what Adam@Eastway can do for us.

AC

[slammed300c]

count me in

[300cAMG]

LETS PUT OUR HEAD TOGETHER AND MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF GROUP-BUY :thumbs_u: WHAT DO WE NEED TO START A VINE#, PART # . THERE IS A LIST OF MIRRORS FOR THE 05-06 LX CAR ON THE OTHER 300/SRT-8 FORUM. THE 07-08 SIDE MIRRORS CALLED WINGS OVERSEAS,HAVE NEW FEATURES PUDDL LAMPS-LED LIGHT THAT COME ON WHEN YOU REMOTLY UNLOCK THE DOORS, AND LED IN-MIRROR SIGNIAL LIGHTS ALONG WITH THESE FEATURES HEATED,AND POWER -AJUST . LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED NOW. WHOS IN AND WHAT INFO DO YOU BRING?

[SublimeDaytona268]

^^^ Thats what Im sayin! I know I dont have a 300, but I dont see why the Charger would be any different, and I would love to have power folding mirrors. Please, someone fill me in if this goes thru and I havent posted in here in a while. I am down for this for sure.

-Pat

[300cAMG]

This Should Include All Lx Models .come Now Lets[we] Can. Do This

[stitchmonkey]

I want some! I want some!

[Texas Tran]

I'm down for some

[SMosher]

now if we can just add that funky mirror thats on the Heritage rides.

You know ... The mirrors with the LED signal lights in them.

[300cAMG]

I HAVE HERE PT# IAQ531 RHAD MSRP $312.00 WE SHOULD LOOKTO PAY LESS THAN $220.00 .PT#IAQ521 MSRP $225.00 WE SHOULD LOOK TO PAY LESS THAN $159.00 . QUESTION IS WILL THEY WORK IN 05-06 LX CARS :roll: THESE # ARE FOR LEFT & RIGHT

[prican_2000]

$400 for the mirrors and we still don't know if they will work with the LXs??

OUCH!

OK Whose first to venture out?????

[hemiwagn]

I've talked to Adam at Eastway about this. He can see the parts in the computer but the parts system does not let him order them!!! Eastway is in Canada, maybe US dealers don't have this restriction.

So even if we get the correct part numbers, we may not be able to source the parts.

Next step is to find a friendly US Mopar dealer who will be willing to see if the parts can be ordered. Anybody have any contacts?

Oh and in addition to the mirrors you will need the special mirror control switch - it has a postion at the bottom to fold.

[jay2g1]

:popcorn:

[Hemi Mag]

I don't think our friends to the South will be able to help out on this. When I wanted the European Tail lights for my neon they had to be ordered thru a UK dealer or wrecker. What we need is someone in the UK/Europe to help us out.

AC



I've talked to Adam at Eastway about this. He can see the parts in the computer but the parts system does not let him order them!!! Eastway is in Canada, maybe US dealers don't have this restriction.

So even if we get the correct part numbers, we may not be able to source the parts.

Next step is to find a friendly US Mopar dealer who will be willing to see if the parts can be ordered. Anybody have any contacts?

Oh and in addition to the mirrors you will need the special mirror control switch - it has a postion at the bottom to fold.

[300cAMG]

THATS GOOD, MIRRORS AND SWITCH. LETS START PMing THOSE WE KNOW FOR LEDS. LETS DO THIS BEFORE THE YEAR IS OUT. LOOK AT WHATS BEEING DONE WITH THE PADDLE SHIFTERS, GREAT LOL

[saleensean]

these are export parts for us customers and can not be ordered from a US dealer.

[prican_2000]

these are export parts for us customers and can not be ordered from a US dealer.


So how did you get yours?????

Come on bro- why the hush hush on this???

Let the cat outta the bag and help us out- your being very limited and selective on the information your giving us. :panic:

[saleensean]

i'm working on trying to get some more sets....

[stitchmonkey]

i'm working on trying to get some more sets....

I'd love these on my 300/Mag

[SublimeDaytona268]

I don't think our friends to the South will be able to help out on this. When I wanted the European Tail lights for my neon they had to be ordered thru a UK dealer or wrecker. What we need is someone in the UK/Europe to help us out.

AC

Right off the bat, Arfur comes to mind. For those of you that dont know who he is, he was like 25,000 posts over on chargerforums and is a well-respected member. If Im not mistaken, he moved out to the UK and took his Charger with him. Perhaps he can help us out... ?

-Pat

[prican_2000]

i'm working on trying to get some more sets....


THANKS BRO:rock:

[300cAMG]

these are export parts for us customers and can not be ordered from a US dealer.
I went to my dealer today with the part # 1A Q531 RHAD cost $320.00 part#1A Q521 RHAC cost $231.00 now i need a part # for the switch or a vin from a lx with these mirrors. !

[CRUZR]

This sounds like something I need... Thanks to all for the research.

Gary

[CDesmondO]

I am in if anyone can make this happen. I was also wondering if a retrofit would be possible. I know Toyota Sequoia and Tundra come with power folding mirrirs, as well as some Ford SUV's and trucks.

[manny72]

My old Lady's Buick Enclave has them, it makes me so JEALOUS.
So I guess I want some too....

[300cAMG]

We Need The Proper Part # For The Mirrors And Control Switch. i would like thoes for the 300c srt-8 BS,heated,puddle lights, Saleensean What kind of luck are you haveing helping us with the MOD?

[OLJustice]

Are 300 and Charger mirrors interchangeable? And how would we know that Euro and US LX wiring is interchangeable? If i were to purchase 300 Euro side mirrors with lights, would there be an equivalent connector on my US Charger to plug the wires coming from the mirrors into?

[300cAMG]

:) HERE ARE PART NUMBERS FOR THE MIRRORS, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER FOR THE CONTROL SWITCH ASYET. I GOT THESE NUMBERS FROM THE CHRYSLER 300 & SRT-8 FORUM. ON THAT FORUM MY HANDLE IS ajn096 PT#1AQ531RHAD PT#1AQ521RHAC who can find the best price?

[300cAMG]

all the LX mirrors are interchangable,CHRYSLER 300,MAGNUM & CHARGER. LX CARS ARE MADE IN CANADA RIGHT?

[pimp mobile]

i hope these are something that we can order in install. i need them. they are pimp.

[the_saint]

Are 300 and Charger mirrors interchangeable? And how would we know that Euro and US LX wiring is interchangeable? If i were to purchase 300 Euro side mirrors with lights, would there be an equivalent connector on my US Charger to plug the wires coming from the mirrors into?
no the 300 mirrors have a different base than the chargers. the mirrors won't fit flush on a charger door and will not bolt up correctly.. I learn this the hard way..

[300cAMG]

Then Are The 300c And Magnum's side mirrors Interchangable? Anyone Know For Shore?

[300cAMG]

Who Here In The US Have Elect. Power Fold Side Mirrors That Fold In At The Twist Of The Controle Knob Like The Mirrors On The Mercedes Benz ,do You HAVE Them On Your Chrysler 300c.if So Tell Us About Them. I Here Thy Are A Option On The 08 300c.

[300cAMG]

i tryed adam clay at eastway , no good. i've been trying for near 2 1/2 years now. still trying.

[SublimeDaytona268]

Damn.... I cant believe no one has figured this out yet.

[LSCto300C]

These would be sweet! I've already got the LED turn signal/puddle lamps built into my mirror and having them fold would make them even sweeter.

[Immo]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Truth Kid]

Damn why does Chrysler have to be *******s about getting parts from other regions. So what if its not a US option, don't do service on the parts that are from Europe

[deflaytedwayz]

I know there are plenty of military folks on here, nobody has any relatives or friends stationed over in europe?

[yubyub]

These would be sweet! I've already got the LED turn signal/puddle lamps built into my mirror and having them fold would make them even sweeter.
LSCto300C - how/where did you get the mirrors with the turn signal and puddle lamps?

[RMassa187]

I found the mirrors for $232 and $167. Anyone have luck with the switch or harness? Would these need to be starscanned in?

[LSCto300C]

LSCto300C - how/where did you get the mirrors with the turn signal and puddle lamps?
It's an option on the 07+ cars.

[MM-JAPAN]

Yea, I've been trying for years to get power folding mirrors with LED lights on the outside and the Chevron (led arrow) on the inside. It was an option on the 300c 07' models option group 2.

[RMassa187]

Anything new on this?>

[crazyjay]

hey folks,
if you look in the "for sale" section there is a fellow selling a pair. i believe they are from a new super bee and are painted "gomango" but if they are close maybe you could just get those chrome covers and have a set for less?
do a search on them in the for sale section and maybe they are still available?
cheers

edit;
my bad they are sold, sorry for the anxiety. they were from the 300 forum

[RMassa187]

Even if I got the mirrors can anyone clarify what else is needed? Starscan? a different wiring harness? I would buy the mirrors new but not sure what else I need!!

[3DLRBIL]

just wanna bump this up...subscribed :)

[RMassa187]

Somebody must have done this. FNKY any input on this mod? Saw one on the street yesterday and i'm jealous!

[slammed300c]

UPDATE: i have contacted a few people over seas already , they are looking into for me , also i was going to say the lexus gs mirrors fold and so does the s550 and the Cl... i was looking for a used set
just to see the fitments on the base of the mirror will fit the base of the lx 's..... keep this thread updated

[RMassa187]

Is this that impossible? I saw a 300 with this option here in MA. Are we talking mirrors, harness and programming? or what?

[CJR300C]

Is this that impossible? I saw a 300 with this option here in MA. Are we talking mirrors, harness and programming? or what?

Did they fold when he put it in park or jus with the switch?

[RMassa187]

I saw it already parked.

[Super T]

I saw it already parked.

...Then how do you know they were power folding and he didn't just fold them?

[DaddyGoFast]

Keep it going... Keep it going... Keep it going... Keep it going...!!!


I want to do this!

[J.Well]

bump. very interested in this. would be nice to get some on my maggie

[Stefan Tapp]

i have a set of these on my 300magnum. fits well with my european rear bumper too. i set them up to work by remote control, just push a button on the remote and both mirrors fold in/out. get lots of attention with these.

I'd like to know how you connected these up to work with the remote, some info please!

Stef

[prican_2000]

You know - this is pretty frustrating. This thread is almost a year old and the people who have done it or have access to the parts have kept it HUSH HUSH with no help for the members here????

What's the point???

I thought that the point of being part of a forum was so that we could help each other out.

NEWS FLASH: At any given time there are 50 300 cars of all variations that I see on the road everyday and guess what - NONE OF THEM LOOK LIKE MINE and so therefore My 300 does not look like their's either. And this forum although Large in its membership is only but a small miniscule percentage (0.01% if that) of actual LX owners on the road.

I guess what I am so frustratated about is the lack of assistance from the ones "in the know" for nothing more then selfishness.

OK I'm off my soapbox now.
Whenever I get some time I will dedicate towards this and see if I can figure it out and of course I will spread the wealth (Knowledge).

[crossfire]

I have some time today.... I'll start researching on this...

[RMassa187]

Thanks crossfire! BTW they sell remotes/recievers on ebay with 10 channels that allow you to control just about anything in the car for like $20. You could could connect the driver of the mirror to this. I used some spare channels on my Avital alarm to control the windows on my S10.

[BCasey]

Power Multi-Function Foldaway Mirrors
Auto Dim Exterior Passenger Mirror
Exterior Mirrors w/Supplemental Signals
Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lampsis an option for 2009 300c's (luxury group II)

maybe we dont need to go over seas to get the parts, unless that means its a power mirror with respect to moveing it around and a manual fold away

EDIT: that was from chrysler.ca, its worded a little different on chrysler.com



Multi-Function Fold-Away Power Mirrors
Automatically-Dimming Exterior Passenger Mirror
Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
Exterior Mirrors with Courtesy Lamps



by the wording of the chrysler.com one it doesnt sound like they are power folding... so my post is pretty much useless haha, sry

[Bubba's Dragon]

Standered option for cars in asia!

[Bubba's Dragon]

I'll help people out when I go back to korea a place has a kit $500 installed ill check when i get back... might be a while though.

[saleensean]

You know - this is pretty frustrating. This thread is almost a year old and the people who have done it or have access to the parts have kept it HUSH HUSH with no help for the members here????

What's the point???

I thought that the point of being part of a forum was so that we could help each other out.

NEWS FLASH: At any given time there are 50 300 cars of all variations that I see on the road everyday and guess what - NONE OF THEM LOOK LIKE MINE and so therefore My 300 does not look like their's either. And this forum although Large in its membership is only but a small miniscule percentage (0.01% if that) of actual LX owners on the road.

I guess what I am so frustratated about is the lack of assistance from the ones "in the know" for nothing more then selfishness.

OK I'm off my soapbox now.
Whenever I get some time I will dedicate towards this and see if I can figure it out and of course I will spread the wealth (Knowledge).

i have these mirrors and i have stated before that i lucked out in getting them. i have no other way of getting more, i have tried for years to get these. i'm not selfish in anyway, if i could get more i would gladly help.

[saleensean]

I'd like to know how you connected these up to work with the remote, some info please!

Stef

i used the 4 channel remote control system from firgelliauto.com

[Immo]

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/european-diesel-powered-300-models/71444-auto-folding-sideview-mirrors.html

[Immo]

Whenever I get some time I will dedicate towards this and see if I can figure it out and of course I will spread the wealth (Knowledge).

I may have found a lead....

[Immo]

Does anyone have a part # for the mirrors?

[RMassa187]

I looked up the part number form the ebay UK auction on 300forums on moparpartz.com and its only $130. Its probably not power folding.

[CJR300C]

I have sent an email out to a guy I know at a Dealership in Germany to get me the part numbers and the prices again. I had the numbers and the price before but this fell off my "to-do mod list". Hopefully I will have the info later today.

[CJR300C]

I'm also trying to see if there are different part numbers between the right hand drive and the left hand drive. so once I get part numbers and prices I'll post the info.

[RMassa187]

:banana:

[Immo]

:beerchug:

[Truth Kid]

I'll help people out when I go back to korea a place has a kit $500 installed ill check when i get back... might be a while though.

Hey just curious where at? I'm curious on the price for just the kit, if the price is right I'll have one of my old Katusas go pick it up and give it to one of my soldier's to get it shipped home.

[Immo]

Anything new?

[CJR300C]

Here are the part number for the German Mirrors:

1. German Power Folding Mirror Assembly for the Left and Right Side:
- SRT Left Side Mirror Assembly , 1CG391DMAD
- 300C Left Side Mirror Assembly, 04805979AL
- SRT Right Side Mirror Assembly, 1CG381DMAA
- 300C Right Side Mirror Assembly, 04805978AL

And the window switches:

2. German Switch for the Power Folding Mirrors: Schalter: 04602736AA, Mopar Valueline: V7700002AA

I'm still waiting on the prices. He forgot to send the prices. I should have them on Monday or Tuesday.

[Immo]

I'm still waiting on the prices. He forgot to send the prices. I should have them on Monday or Tuesday.

Points for you!!!:pepper::beerchug::rock::not_worth:banana:

[RMassa187]

What is the difference between the switches and the mirror part numbers? Are the mirrors heated and auto dimming?

[Truth Kid]

That could be it, I was thinking chrome or painted, but I would imagine painted requires a color code as well.

[DaddyGoFast]

The SRT will probably paintable and the non are chrome... Or vice versa...


The switches are different because there is a position on the switch at the 6 oclock that tell the mirrors to fold in.

[saleensean]

they will not be dimming, they don't have that option. they have the power fold instead of dimming.

[pigpen]

HMM you know the Wycoff Chrysler is finding all of this parts

Switch 44.33
Mirrors are 370.00 a pop!

[RMassa187]

Could the two mirrors be merged? Glass from the dimming mirror and folding part from the euro models? Whats the differences between the switches?

[Truth Kid]

Could the two mirrors be merged? Glass from the dimming mirror and folding part from the euro models? Whats the differences between the switches?

This will be one of the first thinks I likely look into when I come back and get a set in my hands.

[prican_2000]

THAT IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks :pepper:

Here are the part number for the German Mirrors:

1. German Power Folding Mirror Assembly for the Left and Right Side:
- SRT Left Side Mirror Assembly , 1CG391DMAD
- 300C Left Side Mirror Assembly, 04805979AL
- SRT Right Side Mirror Assembly, 1CG381DMAA
- 300C Right Side Mirror Assembly, 04805978AL

And the window switches:

2. German Switch for the Power Folding Mirrors: Schalter: 04602736AA, Mopar Valueline: V7700002AA

I'm still waiting on the prices. He forgot to send the prices. I should have them on Monday or Tuesday.

[prican_2000]

So does this mean that Wycoff will be able to get these for us now that we have a part number????

HMM you know the Wycoff Chrysler is finding all of this parts

Switch 44.33
Mirrors are 370.00 a pop!

[RMassa187]

I talked to Rob at Moparpartz today and he said the valueline switch is like AC Delco is to GM parts. He also told me that the valueline switch part number was not export in his catalog. Also, the corresponding switch in the Mopar was slightly different - 4602781AA. Description comes up as power window switches. I had him look up the 4602736AA and then give me the corresponding Valueline number and it came back with the V7700002AA part number. So I guess its right. He said the switches should be the same so I am saving $100. I ordered the switch to see what comes.

[pigpen]

So does this mean that Wycoff will be able to get these for us now that we have a part number????


Give them a call, best place to buy parts!

[saleensean]

you cannot order these part numbers in the us, they come up as export parts only. you may be able to order the switch though.

[CJR300C]

The SRT will probably paintable and the non are chrome... Or vice versa...


The switches are different because there is a position on the switch at the 6 oclock that tell the mirrors to fold in.

I had them check for both because there is no base model for Europe. They only sell the 3.0L CRD, 3.5L V6, 5.7L V8 HEMI with the chrome mirrors and the the 300C trim, then there is the 300C SRT8 w/ the body colored mirrors. That's why I got both part numbers.

I'm still waiting on the prices. I'll re-send them email to him.

From what I understand the mirrors are plug and play. Replace the mirrors, replace the switch and your off.You can adjust the mirrors as you would normally do, then when you want to fold them in you turn the switch to the "6 o'clock" position on the switch and they close.

[prican_2000]

From what I understand the mirrors are plug and play. Replace the mirrors, replace the switch and your off.You can adjust the mirrors as you would normally do, then when you want to fold them in you turn the switch to the "6 o'clock" position on the switch and they close.


^^^ BOOO-YAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's what I'm talking about!!!!!!!!:rock:

[DaddyGoFast]

I had them check for both because there is no base model for Europe. They only sell the 3.0L CRD, 3.5L V6, 5.7L V8 HEMI with the chrome mirrors and the the 300C trim, then there is the 300C SRT8 w/ the body colored mirrors. That's why I got both part numbers.

I'm still waiting on the prices. I'll re-send them email to him.

From what I understand the mirrors are plug and play. Replace the mirrors, replace the switch and your off.You can adjust the mirrors as you would normally do, then when you want to fold them in you turn the switch to the "6 o'clock" position on the switch and they close.

THis is awesome!!!!

Great job!

[saleensean]

you will have to wire the mirrors for american cars. we do not have the wiring for the power fold option, also on base model cars you will need a new connector on the door end to fit into the mirror and wire the connector to match up to the mirror.
this is what i had to do.

[CJR300C]

Ok, cool. How did you re-wire the mirrors for American cars? What changes did you make?

you will have to wire the mirrors for american cars. we do not have the wiring for the power fold option, also on base model cars you will need a new connector on the door end to fit into the mirror and wire the connector to match up to the mirror.
this is what i had to do.

[CJR300C]

Here is the part numbers with price in Euros. I don't know why the SRT prices are so high. Maybe it has to do with the fact tht car cost almost $100K over here.

German Power Folding Mirror Assembly for the Left and Right Side:
- SRT Left Side Mirror Assembly , 1CG391DMAD 576,90 € + Tax
- 300C Left Side Mirror Assembly, 04805979AL 297,20 € + Tax
- SRT Right Side Mirror Assembly, 1CG381DMAA 576,90 € + Tax
- 300C Right Side Mirror Assembly, 04805978AL 135,80 € + Tax

2. German Switch for the Power Folding Mirrors: Schalter: 04602736AA, 97,15 € + Tax
Mopar Valuoline: V7700002AA 64,20 € +Tax

[DaddyGoFast]

1 Euro = 1.41500 U.S. dollars

[DaddyGoFast]

- SRT Left Side Mirror Assembly , 1CG391DMAD $816.31 + Tax
- 300C Left Side Mirror Assembly, 04805979AL $420.54 + Tax
- SRT Right Side Mirror Assembly, 1CG381DMAA $816.31 + Tax
- 300C Right Side Mirror Assembly, 04805978AL $192.16 + Tax

2. German Switch for the Power Folding Mirrors: Schalter: 04602736AA, $137.47 + Tax
Mopar Valuoline: V7700002AA $90.84 +Tax

So, do to an SRT it would be $1770.09 PLUS tax, shipping and then to rewire the SOB...

Ouch!

I'm out!

[BCasey]

find a wrecked one at a junk yard and use those.

maybe theres a Frankfurt pick-a-part

[pukkaSRT8]

well, presumably the mirror caps are the same between the two cars (except the finish), just like over here. So why dont you just buy the C mirrors (which will have the chrome caps), then swap the caps for your paint matched ones.

Just remember, 300 and magnum mirrors are interchangeable, 300 mirrors wont fit on a charger.

[asgpres]

That would be Fu*5kin Hot!!!!!!

[Immo]

Just remember, 300 and magnum mirrors are interchangeable, 300 mirrors wont fit on a charger.

Not fair.....:boohoo:

[DaddyGoFast]

Hmmm


About $750 now.... Hmmm.. that is more realistic...

How easy it to swap the caps?

[prican_2000]

[QUOTE=DaddyGoFast;2403602]
2. German Switch for the Power Folding Mirrors:
Schalter: 04602736AA, $137.47 + Tax
Mopar Valuoline: V7700002AA $90.84 +Tax [QUOTE]

Wait I have a question:

Has it been established that you will only require only one or the other of the Switches (Schalter or Mopar Valuoline) Right??? so your only purchasing 1 and not both - CORRECT??????

[orandaberg]

Hi
Referring to one comment in the thread about plug an play,they are not!!!!!
if you have a standard harness to you power mirrors then you probably have a black 12 way, power folding mirrors have a green 16 way, I know because I am doing a conversion to my mirrors an all I am adding is the turn signal(in the mirror itself) its proved to be a nightmare, I could not find a used or new 16 way harness to exchange for my 12 way, believe me I used all my resources. Auto Customs of Cincinnati did the mirrors for me,they put the cover on the outside so I would have both inside and outside signals they just spliced into the mirror signal,but the pin was a 16 way and I had a 12 way. On the passenger side I removed the black 12 way so that I still had the existing pins,no go,without the plastic the pins will not stay in place, so I sent the mirrors back so they could remove the 16way and replace it with a 12 way and leave 2 extra wires with it to connect my turn signals,however even if I did have a 16 way harness I do not know if that black box in the door is correct to use as it is not intended to use turn signal mirrors so >I do not know if you have to change out that black box to incorporate a folding mirror as that same switch goes to the black box also, so to make it short you need the right harness or connections and maybe a new black box to incorporate the folding mirrors,if you have standard no power mirrors then you should check if you have any harness at all or the ability to connect.:blam:

[asgpres]

Me TOOOOOO!!!!!

[RMassa187]

Morparpartz has the mirrors. Right is 85 and left is 180. The switches are the same just different manufacturers. The valueline switch is $30.