r/t's with SRT suspension

[Chris Shades]

Just looking for info on how satisfied anyone is with doing a srt suspesion on there r/t. I know alota people who did it are happy with the feel i was leaning more twards how happy are you with the height of the car, is it noticably different? do you wish you went with coilovers instead? any pics?

[Cam]

I loved mine and had no complaints at all. But I also cut a half a coil on the fronts ones to lower it 1/2" when I first installed them. This one mod is the best bang for the buck you can do for an RT IMO. I ran these for something like 40K miles and never had any issues. they gave up nothing on the track compared to the coil overs. Now on the road was a different story. I now have the Tein with EDC controller. Very comfy on the road.

[ChagaRT]

would it be smarter to go with the pedders setup the GSR shocks? Especially when they have that 50% off.

[Chris Shades]

the front struts alone are $488! unless you mean %50 off that price i can get an all four corners from an srt for way less then that.

[LX HEMI]

Im very happy with mine. And I got it for free so that makes it even better!

[OLJustice]

Best suspension mod i've done so far. A bit rougher on the road but nothing horrible. Just tossed on a new rack & SRT 30mm front bar but i haven't really driven it since to give my thoughts.

[risky]

Ride is much better with the srt stuff on. I would pay 350-400

[Pale Rider]

If you are trying to decide between stock and SRT stuff, then do it! Much better than stock.

If you are trying to decide between SRT stuff and an aftermarket setup, well, start saving your pennies.

The ONLY reason to choose an SRT suspension over any thing else is if you regularly tow a trailer, or load your car with luggage/people. The automatic ride height is great. But that automatic ride height is a serious compromise to handling. The rear just can't keep up with the rest of the car.

I REALLY want to get something else, either Pedders or Teins. If the rear was EASILY adjustable for ride height with the Teins, I'd do whatever it takes to have that setup.

Oh, like Cam, I also cut 1/2 coil off the front SRT Springs. I'm actually quite happy with the way it sits, I wouldn't want too much lower really. Well, maybe a bit. But it has nice even fender gap front and rear.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/7car7/2008%20Family%20Vacation/Car%20pics/P3160068.jpg

[formerice]

If you live in a state with crappy roads like Maine, you can keep the RT springs and just replace the front and rear shocks. The Hotchkis sway bars really work well with this mod.

[shagmag07]

i know this is an old thread, but i c all u guys are online soo i figured i'd kill maybe 3 birds with one stone, can yall tell me how hard the suspension swap is, i just bought an SRT set-up and the sways and end links and whole nine yards..and i was curious too how hard it was and if i may be able to do it myself or if im gonna need some outside help?

[Pale Rider]

.... if i may be able to do it myself or if im gonna need some outside help?

Really depends on if you've done this sort of thing before. I've done suspension work on every car I've ever owned, and have the tools for it.

spring compressors, several sets of jack stands, floor jack, sockets, impact wrench, breaker bar.

If you don't have all that, including some experience doing other cars, I'd say get some help from other friends that have, or take it to a shop.

Oh, and don't forget, you'll want a cut-off wheel, to take 1/2 coil off the front springs. I would NOT do this mod without that, especially for a V6.

[shagmag07]

a cut off wheel, now thats the only one i've never heard of, umm is it gonna be a problem or is that just a opinion? thnaks for ur response...

[walela1]

One of the most cost effective for handling improvement I have done on the car, cost me only 270 for istallation and 4 wheel alignment.

Took a trip to San Diego from the San Fernando valley, and it was amazing how much the handling had improved. REM subframe braces, bumpsteer kit, and DCMS front strut brace highly reccomended as well, I'm trying adjustable sway bar end links before commiting to larger sway bars.

Michael:beerchug:

[Pale Rider]

Well, that's up to you I guess. Not a problem really. Take a look at my photo in post 8. That's with a heavier V8, and 1/2 coil cut off. You can probably add at least 3/4 inch to that on your car, with no coil cut.
Some people like the look of the nose in the air, but usually on Impallas.
:doh:

[jg]

...for installation on a Magnum... You really only need to cut the front springs if you get the Charger or 300 SRT suspension to compensate for the rear height. Otherwise it's just personal preference. The Magnum SRT springs are about 1/2" taller (same shock and spring rate).

I just installed the Magnum SRT rear springs with Charger SRT8 rear Nivomats, and Charger SRT8 front springs/shocks on my Magnum RT. The car drives great now!



Well, that's up to you I guess. Not a problem really. Take a look at my photo in post 8. That's with a heavier V8, and 1/2 coil cut off. You can probably add at least 3/4 inch to that on your car, with no coil cut.
Some people like the look of the nose in the air, but usually on Impallas.
:doh:

[shagmag07]

thanks guys...and thanks for gettin back to me soo soon...im thinkin im gonna eventually go with LARGER sway bars and a front/rear strut tower braces...bc theres alot of guys in my area that do that rally cross racing and i've always been a drag racing type guy in my past mustang world...but now with this car im gonna try something new

[SDAutoXr]

You may want to read my recent threads on my change from R/T to SRT and the post with spring rates. I wish I had cut 1/2 coil off my fronts so the front drop would match the rear, but note I used Charger SRT8 springs for the higher spring rates.

[shagmag07]

can i get the link in case i dont see it??

[shagmag07]

nm i got it...also mine is gonna have the 300 srt kit...will it be a requirement to cut the springs to even out the height?? thanks

[Pale Rider]

nm i got it...also mine is gonna have the 300 srt kit...will it be a requirement to cut the springs to even out the height?? thanks


Mine is also the 300 series. The Mag SRT has taller springs, which make it look more even, just taller. When we use the 300 or Charger, the rear sits lower, since the maggy is a little heavier in the rear. I think you'll want to cut the fronts.

[Hemi Mag]

Just had this done this past weekend and I'm lovin it! The front could be a tad lower thou.

Here is the starting point:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/98_Neon_Driver/IMG_3819.jpg

And the finished result (the front has settled a bit more as well):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/98_Neon_Driver/IMG_3837.jpg


AC

[jg]

FYI... Only the MSRT rear springs are taller than the CSRT rear springs. SAME spring rates.

Mine is also the 300 series. The Mag SRT has taller springs, which make it look more even, just taller. When we use the 300 or Charger, the rear sits lower, since the maggy is a little heavier in the rear. I think you'll want to cut the fronts.

[shagmag07]

soo it should be an even swap then, since i didnt get charger springs, and soo i shouldnt have to cut the front ones...unless i just want it done...correct?

[xevilpetex]

I loved mine and had no complaints at all. But I also cut a half a coil on the fronts ones to lower it 1/2" when I first installed them. This one mod is the best bang for the buck you can do for an RT IMO. I ran these for something like 40K miles and never had any issues. they gave up nothing on the track compared to the coil overs. Now on the road was a different story. I now have the Tein with EDC controller. Very comfy on the road.


I would dissagree on the "they gave up nothing on the track" part. There is a definate and noticable difference between the stock SRT suspension and a set of coilovers set to full hardness on the track.

[shagmag07]

If Anybody Has Pics Of Where The Sways Mount Up I'd Like To See Them, Im Doing The Swap On An SXT, But I Dont Really Have a Clue As To Where The Rear Sways Mount and How...Thanks For Pics Ahead Of Time

[Hemi Mag]

Hard to see in this pic, but Chris' hand is on the passenger mount:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/98_Neon_Driver/IMG_3832.jpg

AC

[shagmag07]

im guessin u droppd the cradle to mount it??

[xevilpetex]

yep, its a pain in the ass

[wrestlingnrj]

I've had the SRT suspension on my R&T since Oct (got them for myself on my birthday) and it is definitely a great improvement over the R&T suspension. I all ready had the Hotchkis sways and DC brace on front and REM 4pt on the rear. For me it's only a stop gap until I can afford KW V2's. It was only about a 1/2" drop though.

Don't forget as soon as you cut springs, the spring rate goes to garbage.

[Pale Rider]

Don't forget as soon as you cut springs, the spring rate goes to garbage.

Not true.

We're not talking half the entire spring off a civic here. We're talking 1/2 of a single turn of the coil. Far from garbage. Unless you've done it, be carefull what you throw out there. Not once in this thread, (or most likely ANY thread on this forum) did anyone advice more than 1/2 a coil.

[shagmag07]

well im perty satisfied as is...personally..i got mine done yesterday and yes its a massive improvement over the sxt suspension, especially since u can literally push the rear shocks together with ur bare hands, yea i agree the front could sit lower...and im hopin it will settle somemore. if not it aint no biggie bc im gonna eventually go with bigger sways and the strut braces for the front and rear. anybody got any websites i can go to to see what the price are for strut braces?

[Cam]

Don't forget as soon as you cut springs, the spring rate goes to garbage.

Naaaa.

But on a side note. You the dude that got popped on the east bound 91 in Riverside yesterday around 2. That was pretty screwed he picked you out of the crowd.

[wrestlingnrj]

Naaaa.

But on a side note. You the dude that got popped on the east bound 91 in Riverside yesterday around 2. That was pretty screwed he picked you out of the crowd.

Wasn't me, luckily. Last time I was pulled over was about a month ago for speeding on an offramp, seriously, not the freeway, not the street, the offramp.

As far as spring rate goes, I'm going off of everything I ever learned about them in physics.

[Cam]

Wasn't me, luckily. Last time I was pulled over was about a month ago for speeding on an offramp, seriously, not the freeway, not the street, the offramp.


Cool. It was a mudered out Charger with red striped rims too.

[concussion]

So, this may be a stupid question, but if ya cut 1/2 a coil, are you welding the springs back together or are they sitting on the cut part of the coil???

[Pale Rider]

So, this may be a stupid question, but if ya cut 1/2 a coil, are you welding the springs back together or are they sitting on the cut part of the coil???

I'm not 100% sure we're thinking the same thing, but, the original spring has an "end" to it. You're just re-locating that end 180 degrees from the original end point. No welding.

IIRC, I did take a grinder and taper the the "new" end of the spring. The grinder made the end about 1/8 inch tall, and it tapered back about 2 inches. That helps it sit in the spring seat better.

When the springs are wound up from the factory, they flatten out at the top and bottom - most springs anyway. When you cut a bit off, you're eliminating some of that flat spot, and the spring seat/perch is designed to receive a flattened spring. By using the grinder, you're giving it that flattened shape that it once had.

But again, since it's such a small amount cut off, it's pretty much a perfect fit once you taper it a bit with the grinder.

If you were to cut 3 coils off, to SLAM it, (please don't, just an example), it would never fit right, and could come off the spring seat because the angle that the coil ends at would DEFINATELY NOT meet up with the spring seat at all.