Some Meth install pics..."I know its not Nitrous"

[Ghostface Mag]

I know this is not a Nitrous install but I've talked with a coulpe of members about Meth and some installs..I just wanted to post some pics....

Really not to clear in the pic but I've mounted the Meth Pump on the frame of the car(front end needs to come off)...

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Next pic is where I mounted the Labonte Meth Controller(VC-A10)..Its mounted on the bracket near the fuse/relay box is...Along with a FULL bottle of meth(My factory windshield bottle)..IMO this is a great way carry more Meth and a great way to tell when you are running out(the light in my dash will come)...

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[Ghostface Mag]

Next pic is just my little lonely Meth Solenoid...
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And last is my Fogger at 6:00...

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[RDunn]

guess your using the methanol as a safety measure and not for extra power?

thats what we do on all out turbo cars at least....more boost=more meth

[Ghostface Mag]

guess your using the methanol as a safety measure and not for extra power?

thats what we do on all out turbo cars at least....more boost=more meth

Safety measurements ,keeps the top of the pistons clean,cools temps,and its like an on-demand 113+ Octane boost (my set at 3500-4000rpms)...

[USCG Charger]

Safety measurements ,keeps the top of the pistons clean,cools temps,and its like an on-demand 113+ Octane boost (my set at 3500-4000rpms)...
.. u can add more timing w/out getting knock w/this which means more pwr correct? In other words a more agressive tune per say!

Where can I get one and how much are they?

[MR. J]

.. u can add more timing w/out getting knock w/this which means more pwr correct? In other words a more agressive tune per say!

Where can I get one and how much are they?

Basically Yes.

The water cools your intake charge dropping it by as much as 30 degrees, the Methanol increases your octane rating by 40 points I think it was. You have to tune for it to really see the benefit but Yes you can run allot more timing witch will make your engine more efficient = better MPG and more power.

Redfox racing is running a GB.

[Ghostface Mag]

.. u can add more timing w/out getting knock w/this which means more pwr correct? In other words a more agressive tune per say!

Where can I get one and how much are they?

As of now another one of great Vendors (RedFox Racing)is having a Group Buy as mentioned...
Basically Yes.

The water cools your intake charge dropping it by as much as 30 degrees, the Methanol increases your octane rating by 40 points I think it was. You have to tune for it to really see the benefit but Yes you can run allot more timing witch will make your engine more efficient = better MPG and more power.

Redfox racing is running a GB.

Thanks Mr. J you beat me to it...:thumbs_u:

[USCG Charger]

yeah 383hemi was telling me about this earlier... he said it really safe and actually good for ur engine correct?

[MR. J]

Thanks Mr. J you beat me to it...:thumbs_u:
Sorry, I'm just so excited over this kit.
It's possible I may have one coming too.:mrgreen:

yeah 383hemi was telling me about this earlier... he said it really safe and actually good for ur engine correct?

Well if you run out of windshield washer fluid the detonation isn't good your the motor. The water is good because it will clean out all your carbon buildup and keep the cylinders clean.

By the way I think today is the last day of the GB.

[BMC-Mikey]

Looks great!

BMC Performance is also a direct dealer with Labonte and we can get anything you need as well :rock: Labonte kits are great!!

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=labonte?Click=439 (http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=labonte)

[Ghostface Mag]

Looks great!

BMC Performance is also a direct dealer with Labonte and we can get anything you need as well :rock: Labonte kits are great!!

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=labonte


Thanks Chris....

[VelocityBoy]

How long does a fill last?

Cheers,

Tom

[Redfox0099]

By the way I think today is the last day of the GB.


I had posted somewhere in another thread it went to the end of June so I will leave the GB price till then.


I have my street tune not relying on the Water/Methanol injection and my race tune set up for:

No Knock sensors
more timing

I dont run that on the street but the water/methanol is a good thing to have.

[Ghostface Mag]

How long does a fill last?

Cheers,

Tom


It really depends on how much your foot is on the pedal...Mine is ALWAYS on and running...I also have it to only spray over 3500-4000rpms...So if I'm just chillin' or cruising it won't spray...I'm using the factory washer bottle for Meth so it'll last me awhile til my next fill-up..I really can't give a real answer on how long it will last because I don't drive my SRT everyday...

[MR. J]

Did you have to run a vacuum line to the digital controller?

What fluid are you running in the washer reservoir? regular washer fluid or a purpose made fluid?

[USCG Charger]

can u guys that have ur's already installed post some pics of the set up? I also have a question about the tunes..

If I have a "race tune" where it add more timing w/this meth set up do I alwasy run it and it just comes on when ever I het a certain RPM? Or do I actually install the race tune b4 I go to the track?

[Charg-um@BMC Performance]

How is the controller activating, is it at certain programable rpm's ? or ? ?

[VelocityBoy]

What kind of a performance increase can we see with meth and tune?

Cheers,

Tom

[USCG Charger]

I think that depends on ur tuner and how much timing is added when using the meth...

[1fastsedan]

Did you have to run a vacuum line to the digital controller?

What fluid are you running in the washer reservoir? regular washer fluid or a purpose made fluid?
You're in Cali, so you'll have to mix your own. The hippies here don't let us get the good washer fluid.

I think that depends on ur tuner and how much timing is added when using the meth...
Correct. Nate might be able to comment on how much timing he is getting on his race tune.

[Ghostface Mag]

Did you have to run a vacuum line to the digital controller?

What fluid are you running in the washer reservoir? regular washer fluid or a purpose made fluid?

Yes that is plugged into the Meth Controller (VC-A10 for N/A Motors)...It really depends on the brand washer fluid..The bottle I'm using now I had to cut with a bottle of HEET..So yes self made Meth...

How is the controller activating, is it at certain programable rpm's ? or ? ?

Its activated off of Vacuum and RPM's (you need to tap for a signal)...

[Redfox0099]

How is the controller activating, is it at certain programable rpm's ? or ? ?

Um Paul...don't you work at a place that sells this :)

Goof ball.



If you have a race tune for no knock sensors and higher timing run it when you get to the track. My street tune is not tuned for Water/Meth in case:

1. I run out (even though I keep a gallon jug in the back and I have never even run low)

2. Some thing fails


Street tune not tuned for water/meth for everyday, race tune for the track.

Pump installed next to water bottle:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/Magnum/Water-Methanol/100_0202.jpg

Nozzles:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/Magnum/Water-Methanol/100_0421.jpg



I ran my car to Ohio and back on mostly 87 octane with no real issues..average 80 mph. I am doing a writeup on it and will post it once I am done tonight....87 octane on a 10.6:1 comression motor for highway driving is a nice alternative to 93 octane, saved me .20 a gallon.

[Orange Crush 375]

So is there a threshold as to how much is too much methanol being used or a certain rpm that is too low? Could running it too often or too low cause problems? Just curious, this seems pretty neat.

[Redfox0099]

If you spray too low you will bog the motor and it will probably stall out, mine starts around 2800 RPM.

I spray 50/50 Distilled Water/Methanol.

[MR. J]

Anybody have an opinion on Snow performances Boost Juice?



Boost Juice™ is Snow Performance’s proprietary mix of 49% methanol and 51% water. It is made in a controlled environment with special care to make sure the ratios are accurate to result in a high performance water-methanol fluid formulated for use in the Boost Cooler™ injection system. If Boost Juice™ is used exclusively in the Boost Cooler™ kit, Snow Performance offers a free lifetime warranty. Boost Juice™ 4 gal case.

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/40008.htm

[Ghostface Mag]

Anybody have an opinion on Snow performances Boost Juice?



Boost Juice™ is Snow Performance’s proprietary mix of 49% methanol and 51% water. It is made in a controlled environment with special care to make sure the ratios are accurate to result in a high performance water-methanol fluid formulated for use in the Boost Cooler™ injection system. If Boost Juice™ is used exclusively in the Boost Cooler™ kit, Snow Performance offers a free lifetime warranty. Boost Juice™ 4 gal case.

http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/40008.htm


From what I was told the Labonte Motorsports Kit and Snow the kit are the same companies.

[Redfox0099]

don't spend that much, there is an additional$15 handling fee for transporting methanol.

Go to your local track/ fuel depot and buy 5gallons of methanol for $30 and 5 gallons of distiller water for $5 and be done with it.

[MR. J]

don't spend that much, there is an additional$15 handling fee for transporting methanol.

Go to your local track/ fuel depot and buy 5gallons of methanol for $30 and 5 gallons of distiller water for $5 and be done with it.

My local track is a 2 to 2 1/2 hour drive. :sad:

[MagnumRT05]

From what I was told the Labonte Motorsports Kit and Snow the kit are the same companies.

Same kits, different companies. I believe Snow sells the Labonte stuff and just relabels it.

Cooling Mist is another great kit if you missed the Labonte GB and want a kit. It has a great progressive controller and just an overall great kit.

[SRT8U]

Hey Derrick glad to see you got the kit installed, and glad we could help you out!

[MR. J]

From what I was told the Labonte Motorsports Kit and Snow the kit are the same companies.

I wasn't asking as far as compatibility, more like if this stuff was worth using?


A friend of mine said not to use the purpose sold stuff because of BS additives in it, just to stick with regular washer fluid.

[Ghostface Mag]

Hey Derrick glad to see you got the kit installed, and glad we could help you out!

Thanks again Kris and Lisa @ BMC...Did u get my last PM..?

[leveil22]

how hard is this to install?

[Ghostface Mag]

I wasn't asking as far as compatibility, more like if this stuff was worth using?


A friend of mine said not to use the purpose sold stuff because of BS additives in it, just to stick with regular washer fluid.

Yea thats true plus you will save some coin by just going in local auto part store and getting yourself a gallon of washer fluid for $1.99...

[Ghostface Mag]

how hard is this to install?

Not hard at all...The biggest thing is deciding where you want to mount everything(Pump,Controller,Solenoid etc..)

[MR. J]

Yea thats true plus you will save some coin by just going in local auto part store and getting yourself a gallon of washer fluid for $1.99...

Yup, only problem for me is I don't think I can find washer fluid in Cali with more then 30% meth. He's in AZ and says there's is 49-50, I may have to buy a case when I am out there in October or maybe have him UPS me a case. Well see I guess.

[Redfox0099]

call your local fuel depot or race shop, you can get methanol there.

[BMC Performance]

Mr J., there's not an extra $15 handling fee on Boost Juice, at least with us. It's good stuff but not something I would spend money on to run all the time. Typically, running the standard 50/50 washer fluid will be just fine. If you are racing or on the dyno, you might spend the money for the Boost Juice.

We'll have a new, more powerful and potent, fluid soon, too!!

From what I was told the Labonte Motorsports Kit and Snow the kit are the same companies.

Here's the short version ... years ago, Snow was selling a water/meth kit that did not have a controller. Labonte enters the scene to help and develops the controller and produces them for Snow. A falling out occurs last year between Snow and Labonte (that I won't go into here as it's not for me to publicize "dirt" like that) and Snow continues to produce their controller and markets under their name with their kit. Snow continues with a new controller supplier. We have been a Snow dealer for years, but hooked up with Labonte and have worked with them on a few upcoming products and taken our car to display in their vendor booth. Good people!

Um Paul...don't you work at a place that sells this :)

Goof ball.

Um, wow.

Actually he has a full-time job and works with us part-time, as needed. So, no, he's not 24/7 at the shop with us or fully trained on everything we carry. He does tint a mean set of tail lights and do some of the best paint and body work I've ever seen though, and we're proud to have him as part of the BMCP team!

[sik300srt8]

So does anybody have any HP numbers? gains... just seems to clean our engines

[MR. J]

Mr J., there's not an extra $15 handling fee on Boost Juice, at least with us. It's good stuff but not something I would spend money on to run all the time. Typically, running the standard 50/50 washer fluid will be just fine. If you are racing or on the dyno, you might spend the money for the Boost Juice.

We'll have a new, more powerful and potent, fluid soon, too!!


Cool thanks.

I may pick up a case of Boost Juice to try and also pick up a case of 49/50 washer fluid later.

[MR. J]

So does anybody have any HP numbers? gains... just seems to clean our engines

If your not tuned for the octane increase then no, you won't see any HP gains. Just like running a higher octane in a car not setup for it you won't see any benefit. What I plan to do is run the Diablo 93 octane tune with 87 gas and maybe add some more timing into the 93 tune. Will see, I'm going to start with baby steps and data log as I go. My goal is to see some HP and MPG increase on 87 gas.

[leveil22]

can't wait to get mine installed when I put on SC

[Redfox0099]

Um, wow.

Actually he has a full-time job and works with us part-time, as needed. So, no, he's not 24/7 at the shop with us

Lisa it was a joke.... Paul and I go WAY back...infact I am the only reason he was able to find his hotel room at Shindig in the "state" he was in :pepper:..and he is a goofball but in a goodway.

[USCG Charger]

so I'm game for this.. I just wanted to make my engine bay seem as clean looking as possible.... no extra wires sticking out etc...

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

We incorporated water/meth in our turbo designs from the beginning over two years ago. You can use it to simply reduce combustion temps and reduce the amount of retard needed, or you can get extreme and get a purpose made tune just for higher concentrations and run even more timing. Of course all other parameters regarding fueling must be addressed.

You must look carefully at the windshield washer fluid label. Many places in the US cut out all the methanol during the summer for VOC reduction. Look carefully at the label, it must say that it protects down to at least -20 to -30 degrees F.

In the summer many fluids will state that it protects down to 30 degrees which means no methanol content, DON'T USE IT!

A -30 mixture is somewhere between 40% and 50% methanol with the rest distilled water plus the lovely blue dye.

You can pick up the small bottles of HEET gas line antifreeze at the auto parts store which is pure methanol to spike up your mixture. You can also check with your local paint store as they sell pure methanol in 1 - 5 gallon cans. Industrial supply vendors are another good place to check.

NEVER EVER use the pink, orange, purple, green, or other funky colored fluid as these are a bug mix with detergent in them. They will quickly clog your spray head.

Remember, methanol is a deadly poison if taken internally, keep it away from pets, kids, or anyone else that might possibly consume it. It is also (in a pure state) not the best thing for your paint either. Yes it is very flammable in a pure state as well.

When mounting your pump, try to mount it in a vertical position (head down). The Sure-Flo pump designs used in nearly all systems sometime have a tendency to seep a small amount around the head to pump motor seal. While this is rare, methanol can be corrosive (not to mention the water) and we have seen one pump fail mounted on it's side where seepage made it's way into the electric motor internals. Best just to keep the head turned down.

Ditch the screws that come with the kits, pick up some #10 hex head self drilling screws for metal siding (they are hardened) about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inch long so you can use your drill driver to screw them into the metal structure which is pretty hard itself. You can drill a hole, but you will have a hard time trying to get that sheet metal screw to thread into the metal without stripping or worse breaking off.

Snow electronics are designed and manufactured by Labonte with a Snow label on them. Biggest difference is in the spray head fittings, and the Labonte kits (which we now use) if ordering a standard kit come with an isolation solenoid to prevent siphoning into the intake tract if the fluid container is above the level of the spray nozzle.

When cutting the feed lines, use a razor blade to make as straight a cut as possible. An angled or distorted end will run the risk of not sealing properly in the push on connector. If removing the line from the connector, simply push inward on the orange, black, or grey plastic ring and slip the line out. Do not try to pull the ring outward as you will ruin the connector body.

Best mounting location is behind the front fascia on the LX body in the area where the old air box was located on the outside of the frame rail as seen in one of the pictures in the posts above.

I do NOT like to use a punch to make a drill point starting point on the frame rail as you must remember that you have airbag triggers located in proximity of where you are going to be beating on a punch with a hammer. For extra security, disconnect your battery and let it bleed off by connecting the positive and negative cable ends (both off the battery of course) together for a few seconds.

Hope this helps.

Tim - CIS

[Hemi4me?]

Thank you for the info that was great!

Can anyone tell me that this made a difference in any NOTICEABLE performance?

I mean it seams like a cool pretty cheap mod and if it helps get the injectors clean and maybe a lil more mileage and performance I am game.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

Thank you for the info that was great!

Can anyone tell me that this made a difference in any NOTICEABLE performance?

I mean it seams like a cool pretty cheap mod and if it helps get the injectors clean and maybe a lil more mileage and performance I am game.

Even on a factory tune, a small amount of spray will decrease the likely hood of the PCM pulling timing. It will clean out your combustion chambers and get rid of that nasty carbon crap that seems to build up on your piston tops and cylinder head.

An excessive amount of carbon build up can create hot spots leading to pre ignition under load, and in extreme cases even start to raise compression ratios slightly as chamber volume decreases.

Tim - CIS

[MagnumRT05]

Thank you for the info that was great!

Can anyone tell me that this made a difference in any NOTICEABLE performance?

I mean it seams like a cool pretty cheap mod and if it helps get the injectors clean and maybe a lil more mileage and performance I am game.

The way I see it, the water/meth alone doesnt make any noticeable difference, but it allows one to add more and more performance mods safely.

I can tell you this though. I am now commuting an hour each way to work. I used to get 12/15 mpg with a somewhat modded car and now I get 15/18 mpg with a turbo/water/meth kit. I love it!

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

The way I see it, the water/meth alone doesnt make any noticeable difference, but it allows one to add more and more performance mods safely.

I can tell you this though. I am now commuting an hour each way to work. I used to get 12/15 mpg with a somewhat modded car and now I get 15/18 mpg with a turbo/water/meth kit. I love it!

With a turbo in steady state non boosted driving, it does help to increase engine efficiency as the motor does not have to "suck" as hard to get air in as the compressor wheel even when not in boost is still feeding air to the intake.

Whenever water flashes to steam, it uses a significant amount of heat energy to cause a phase change from water to steam. The expanding steam also exerts a slight amount of driving force down on the piston top so some efficiency gains can be realized there even if very slight.

There is some interesting reading on a six stroke engine design that supplements the combustion process by injecting purified water into the hot combustion chamber creating a steam cycle stroke which greatly increases the fuel efficiency. It also cools the engine so that the radiator cooling system can actually be eliminated.

Bruce Crower of Crower Cams is working on a modern version. Here is a link to it in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke)

Tim - CIS

[tank8289]

So if we have the correct tune and we decide to have it run all the time on higher rpms like others have stated, will it have any performance enhancement at all?

[Redfox0099]

The water/methanol injecting will cool your intake even on a stock tune...cooler intake leads to less pulled timing...less pulled timing makes more power.

[tank8289]

sweettttt, always love those two words "more power"......anyone have a place where i can get a good kit that includes EVERYTHING i need?

[dline]

quoted by spedly

"even with water/meth they are getting KR. W/M isn't going to fix KR if its coming from a noisy motor. There isn't any real retonation to get rid of. Probably why only 10hp and a loss of tq was picked up and there was stil KR. "

[383HEMI]

quoted by spedly

"even with water/meth they are getting KR. W/M isn't going to fix KR if its coming from a noisy motor. There isn't any real retonation to get rid of. Probably why only 10hp and a loss of tq was picked up and there was stil KR. "
No one is talking about noisy motors. And who is "they"? Try posting something that makes sence for a change please.

Nothing like internet speculators that have no clue on whats really going on.

Thank you,
PH

[dline]

:popcorn:

[USCG Charger]

nop no one talking about knock in this thread. :doh:

just a disclaimer if they are getting KR.


dont bother talking directly to me.. route a **** if u want to speak directly to me ungster.....:Na_Na_Na_Na:

[USCG Charger]

:popcorn:


I also see u edit ur post.. it was alittle late though bud..

[dline]

nop no one talking about knock in this thread. :doh:

just a disclaimer if they are getting KR.

that ain't a shot at you bud.

[USCG Charger]

nop no one talking about knock in this thread. :doh:

just a disclaimer if they are getting KR.

that ain't a shot at you bud.


not to worry kiddo.. lets get back on topic........

[dline]

ok old man

[Redfox0099]

Wow Dline....nice way to make people love ya :)

[tank8289]

Ok so with this meth injected, it raises your octane obviously right? How many points?

[MikeEast]

Ok, so we are all pretty much in agreement that water/meth is a good thing, I have a couple of questions related to an install - as in;

'where the heck do you find 12v 15a switched power under the hood', and
'where the heck does one find a 'tach signal' - just tap off one of the coil input wires?'

Mike
(doing some heavy reading now)

[383HEMI]

Wow Dline....nice way to make people love ya :)
No worries, he's just a troll that got booted of Dodge Talk for doing his thing, Trolling.

PH

[04hemipwr]

meth is on the way for me!
gadier didn't the meth take 9.0 degrees of knock rtd away?

[383HEMI]

Yeah Luke, went from 9 deg on the Superchips Datalogging to ZEROOOOOO!!!!

Thats without the Knock Sensors being desensitized. Got my full timing too at 10.5:1 CR. All 32 deg of it. Does it make more power??? Well, that is yet to be seen. Need to get on a dyno and try it out. Its just good to know I have a well built quite motor that has the ability to run over 30 deg of timing without any KR with Water/Meth's assistance.

PH

[392Stu]

Yeah Luke, went from 9 deg on the Superchips Datalogging to ZEROOOOOO!!!!

Thats without the Knock Sensors being desensitized. Got my full timing too at 10.5:1 CR. All 32 deg of it. Does it make more power??? Well, that is yet to be seen. Need to get on a dyno and try it out. Its just good to know I have a well built quite motor that has the ability to run over 30 deg of timing without any KR with Water/Meth's assistance.

PH

Removed 9 degrees of KR, proof of another case for water meth, It fixes a noisy motor:)

[383HEMI]

Removed 9 degrees of KR, proof of another case for water meth, It fixes a noisy motor:)
LOL

PH

[USCG Charger]

would this stuff wwork on my wife.....

[leveil22]

where do you hook the wires on the relay in at?

[MR. J]

Ok so with this meth injected, it raises your octane obviously right? How many points?

About 20+ points increase. So with 91 octane in the tank with the water meth your looking at 120 octane ish fuel.

[tank8289]

Holy sh*t thats sick. I wonder how long it lasts ( a full washer bottle tank full ) if you run it above lets say 2500 rpms. Sounds like a nice cheap way to race fuel.

[Ghostface Mag]

No worries, he's just a troll that got booted of Dodge Talk for doing his thing, Trolling.:doh:

PH

^^^ Wow...I get alot of PM's about Meth/Water (Since I think I was the first to start using it on an N/A LX motor on the forum)... So I decided to just start a thread with some useful info,install pics and some insight on Meth/Water and someone wants to go Trolling...

On a better note it is good to see some other Vendors on the Forum and Tech's jump in to explain in detail and their experience w/ Meth/Water in general...:thumbs_u:

would this stuff wwork on my wife.....

That Depends....LOL

[Ghostface Mag]

Holy sh*t thats sick. I wonder how long it lasts ( a full washer bottle tank full ) if you run it above lets say 2500 rpms. Sounds like a nice cheap way to race fuel.

I run mine at 3500-4000rpms(couldn't hold the gas pedal steady enough to be exactly on 3500 so its in between),to me that is like WOT...I think 2500 might be too low..I'm sure you don't want to spray Meth if you are just chillin' or cruising...Than again you can have a on/off switch...Mine is installed to run ALL the time over those certain Rpm's...

[tank8289]

Sounds good, is your car a daily driver? How often do you have to refill your washer bottle tank?

[Ghostface Mag]

Sounds good, is your car a daily driver? How often do you have to refill your washer bottle tank?

Its not a Daily Driver...But I have drive it for two days straight last week and used about a good 12oz. bottle worth with me in WOT some of the time :mrgreen: (more than half)...I know this for a fact because thats what I used to top my washer bottle back off with...


Keep in mind our washer bottle can hold alot of fluid if thats what you are using...

[SRT8U]

Holy sh*t thats sick. I wonder how long it lasts ( a full washer bottle tank full ) if you run it above lets say 2500 rpms. Sounds like a nice cheap way to race fuel.
You can use a seperate tank if that is a concern, I am not using the washer res..I am using a seprerate tank mounted in the trunk, that is how we have done it on all our installs over the years.
The kits come with a small resevoir but there are several upgraded tank sizes.


7 Qt
http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/sp-40020.htm
8 Gal-diesels use these alot
http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/40010.htm

[MR. J]

Holy sh*t thats sick. I wonder how long it lasts ( a full washer bottle tank full ) if you run it above lets say 2500 rpms. Sounds like a nice cheap way to race fuel.

I run mine at 3500-4000rpms(couldn't hold the gas pedal steady enough to be exactly on 3500 so its in between),to me that is like WOT...I think 2500 might be too low..I'm sure you don't want to spray Meth if you are just chillin' or cruising...Than again you can have a on/off switch...Mine is installed to run ALL the time over those certain Rpm's...



I believe Red said 2800-3000 RPM was the lowest the controller would allow you to come in at. Tank, if you set the system too low to kick in, it will bog down your motor. The controller is perversive so you probably want it to start at around 3000 at 10% spray. You can select both when you want the spray to start and how much spray to start.


Im looking to spend less at the pump so I am going to run 87 with the water meth so I should have around 110 octane and I can still use the diablo 91 or 93 octane tune.

[Bizzle]

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[Redfox0099]

2800 is not the lowest, it is just where I have it and what I recommend as the lowest point.

[MR. J]

2800 is not the lowest, it is just where I have it and what I recommend as the lowest point.

My bad. I stand corrected. :)

[SRT Brian]

So with this stuff. For a daily driver if you have it set to come on say WOT is the setting for like 3500 and above it will keep spraying tell you back off the gas?? How big of a change dose it make if you put 87 gas in there and run the 93 tune? Dose it give a kick or anything?

[leveil22]

how do you wire the kit up?

[Hemi4me?]

Hey guys I ordered a kit, and I had some things come up that I need to make this go away... I bought the wife a ML350 and a Nav unit from ebay and I bought myself some Dynaudio components that i prolly should not have, and powdercoated my maggy wheels...

SO that being said I need to get out of my order for now.

15% off and I got the controller, the extra spray nozzle, and the kit. It would come to like $355 shipped.

Let me know by email or pm

smartbet2@gmail.com

[BIGDAVE]

Hey guys I ordered a kit, and I had some things come up that I need to make this go away... I bought the wife a ML350 and a Nav unit from ebay and I bought myself some Dynaudio components that i prolly should not have, and powdercoated my maggy wheels...

SO that being said I need to get out of my order for now.

15% off and I got the controller, the extra spray nozzle, and the kit. It would come to like $355 shipped.

Let me know by email or pm

smartbet2@gmail.com

PM sent
BIGDAVE

[Hemi4me?]

Thank you Dave... If I havent changed my mind, or sold it in the next 2 weeks I will let you know.

[bigrone72203]

im looking to buy this kit, but how do i kno how to get the correct washer fluid mixture? are all the blue mixtures the same?

[Hemi4me?]

If anyone is intertested I have a new kit for sale in the for sale section... I need to complete my stereo before I play with this kit! It looks really cool though.

[BMC Performance]

im looking to buy this kit, but how do i kno how to get the correct washer fluid mixture? are all the blue mixtures the same?

You want the 50/50 water/methanol one. Just check the bottle to be sure you get that mixture. Some are 50/50 and others aren't so that's the easiest way.

We have the water/meth kits for you, too.

[bigrone72203]

You want the 50/50 water/methanol one. Just check the bottle to be sure you get that mixture. Some are 50/50 and others aren't so that's the easiest way.

We have the water/meth kits for you, too.

can you ship to an APO address? thats my biggest downfall is that im stationed overseas right now

[BMC Performance]

can you ship to an APO address? thats my biggest downfall is that im stationed overseas right now

Absolutely!! :thumbs_u: Thanks for serving!!

[Redfox0099]

can you ship to an APO address? thats my biggest downfall is that im stationed overseas right now


I never understood companies problems with shipping to APOs...this last year when my wife as stationed at Balad AFB in Iraq I sent her stuff almost every week with no problems.

[bigrone72203]

I never understood companies problems with shipping to APOs...this last year when my wife as stationed at Balad AFB in Iraq I sent her stuff almost every week with no problems.

i dont understand either. its not like its an extra cost to the shipper, because a APO is actually a stateside address. as long as the package is not over 70 pounds there is no problem. its not like we are asking the companies to bend over backwards to have something shipped to us in other countries, because its just as easy to send to APO as it is any other address. THANKS ALOT BMC you will see my business....

[Redfox0099]

sniffle sniffle...I ship to APOs also and want your business too. I love the military see


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/redfox0099/CIMG2128.jpg
My wife


Sorry, I am bored.

As for making sure you get the correct mixture for your water/Methanol I recommend doing what I and others do for our water/methanol setups....mix your own.

[BMC Performance]

I never understood companies problems with shipping to APOs...this last year when my wife as stationed at Balad AFB in Iraq I sent her stuff almost every week with no problems.

I think it's because some companies ship only UPS since they get big discounts on shipping and have guaranteed tracking, etc.

i dont understand either. its not like its an extra cost to the shipper, because a APO is actually a stateside address. as long as the package is not over 70 pounds there is no problem. its not like we are asking the companies to bend over backwards to have something shipped to us in other countries, because its just as easy to send to APO as it is any other address. THANKS ALOT BMC you will see my business....

I agree! Companies should do anything they can to support those who serve, so we ship however the customer wants. You're very welcome and I'll keep track of this thread, but feel free to shoot me a PM or call 877-BMC-RWHP (or catch our Live Help on www.bmcperformance.com). You're going to LOVE the water/methanol!!

[bigrone72203]

I agree! Companies should do anything they can to support those who serve, so we ship however the customer wants. You're very welcome and I'll keep track of this thread, but feel free to shoot me a PM or call 877-BMC-RWHP (or catch our Live Help on www.bmcperformance.com (http://www.bmcperformance.com)). You're going to LOVE the water/methanol!!

PM sent!!

[bigrone72203]

sniffle sniffle...I ship to APOs also and want your business too. I love the military see

As for making sure you get the correct mixture for your water/Methanol I recommend doing what I and others do for our water/methanol setups....mix your own.

hey red, i heard you do the custom gauge clusters, is this true?

[Redfox0099]

hey red, i heard you do the custom gauge clusters, is this true?

The one and only

[bigrone72203]

The one and only

PM on the way

[leveil22]

how do you wire this kit up?

[Redfox0099]

Well 1st off what kit is it?

[leveil22]

Snow stage one

[Redfox0099]

Got me then...sorry, I only know the Labonte Kits. Where did you get it?

[leveil22]

thought they were the same? a member on here sold it since he wasn't using it?

[Redfox0099]

If I were you I would go here:
http://www.snowperformance.net/products.php?p_cat=324

Click on the kit you have and then click on the "I" button to download the instructions...but that is just me.

[Ghostface Mag]

thought they were the same? a member on here sold it since he wasn't using it?

I have wired up a couple Labonte Kits but not one of the Snow Kits(yet)...Looking at the Snow kit thou its almost identically as the Labonte just by looking at it...Most of the W/Meth kits out on the market are pretty straight forward and easy to do..The biggest thing is figuring out where you want everything mounted and ran...